Making glyphosate work faster

Cripes, that's a lot longer than I had thought. I was thinking a few hours. We have used something from Agrii called Speed Up 3000. Never did know how much it did actually speed things up.

I was thinking, on the BLWs, we'll probably put a BLW spray on in the crop, so that could clear up anything that's not totally dead. Having to cultivate unmoved stubbles because they won't direct drill so need to get a wiggle on.

Wheat has now leapt forward and appears to be at T1 timing too. Given a rather windy and showery week ahead for spraying the pressure is rather on.
 
Why not chuck roundup in the pre-em? And 24hrs is my opinion not peer reviewed papers.

We're running through with the Claydon to false drill (basically cultivate). This is covering up quite a lot of small weeds. Going to power harrow afterwards which will mince things up a bit. Also, may not do a pre-em depending on the weather. NIAB are saying not to bother now given date.
 

Flat 10

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We're running through with the Claydon to false drill (basically cultivate). This is covering up quite a lot of small weeds. Going to power harrow afterwards which will mince things up a bit. Also, may not do a pre-em depending on the weather. NIAB are saying not to bother now given date.
Why not use a proper cultivator? Sumo with legs shallow better than 2 passes?
 

Flat 10

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We're running through with the Claydon to false drill (basically cultivate). This is covering up quite a lot of small weeds. Going to power harrow afterwards which will mince things up a bit. Also, may not do a pre-em depending on the weather. NIAB are saying not to bother now given date.
But you have a weeks window to apply your round up pre-em with less time pressure?
 

Flat 10

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Don't want anything that presses the wet soil. Needs to dry without being compressed into mud before doing anything further. Neighbour did some Trioing a week ago and that looks wicked.
Maschio not got a press on the back then? Surely you can take press off sumo anyway
 

fudge

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Happy is very strong term in the world of agronomy. I'd grudgingly start straight away if it is dry and weeds aren't too big. Couch grass wants leaving a week IMO.

As an aside I once suggested a front mounted 4m sprayer for use in conjunction with the drill, my agronomist thought it a "good idea". I didn't bother, but he thought it would do a good job on small weeds.

I wouldn't bother with adjuvants either.
 

Brisel

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What products are there which speed up how quickly you can cultivate after spraying glyphosate? If applying 4 l/ha of glyphosate by itself, how quickly would you be happy to start cultivating? Thanks.

As above, weed spectrum, any stress (theirs not yours) and speed of metabolic growth will dictate uptake of the herbicide. You’ve also got to be careful that any adjuvant doesn’t stress the target which might slow uptake! @Fromebridge has a more educated view than me.

Personally I’d use the stuff recommended but would go to the Adjuvant Academy to learn more. I’d look around the spray store for a wetter to increase coverage and a surfactant to help get through the leaf wax. Try Validate which is an improved version of Li700.
 

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Not much experience I'm afraid apart from comments from our members who follow the sprayer with the drill, on the basis that if the weeds are buried by the drill they won't survive, if not they will carry on circulating the glyphosate. Not confident that applies to all weeds but would to annual grasses. If it were me I'd still give it 24 hours though, no more.
 
Depends on weed species and their morphology.

Minimum 24 hours in my book for small seedling type weeds and volunteers in stubbles.

Validate is apparently the bees knees. Im sure drummer can elaborate.

For the Rolls Royce treatment Glyfos Dakar is nearly as good as it gets in terms of speed and each of use. Still would use a sniff of validate though.
 

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