I am thinking about buying a used Manipoo 625 MT(construction spec) for general farm work but mostly in the yard. Anyone have experience of these machines ,good or bad and will i regret buying a telehandler with those funny little tyres? Plus any views on hydrostatic forklifts in general or any alternative recommendations. Thanks in advance for any replies.
Manitou MT625
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Get a MLT, great truck!!!
Don't give get many faults with. Two speed hydro is good round yards but slow on the road. Takes time to get use to hydro if use to torque converter. MT will be construction spec so not as much tilt and crowd as MLT, simple seat and probably no a/c. More of a concern will be MT do not have reverse fans which will be a problem in dusty conditions.
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No aircon in ours.... this aircon would use alot of power... only 75hp
ACEngineering
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Theres very little difference between mt and mlt 625 both have same tilt crowd angle. Both have same engines and hydro units.
Main differences are tyres, seat, worklights, aircon and pick up hitch as far as i know.
One of Manitous success stories - even the big "JCB Only Hirers" have them in there hire fleet - had a used one a few months ago and very impressed - there is also an "Easy Version" I believe with less HP and simpler - I understand a new one can be between £35 k and 50K depending on build spec - so used prices can vary substantially - still overpriced in the used market due to strong demand in the UK and overseas - plenty for sale around £30k last time I looked - Mt version with 1500 hrs, but with the Easy Version now a lot cheaper new this may have some effect on the used MT versions going forward - but for a hard working tough job as the main machine in ag - the full spec MLT with all the toys is probably preferable.
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Wonder if the new easy versions are to get away from the DPF filter they had to start fitting in about 2015?
Theres a fair bit off diffrence in the hydros mlt has a lot more pushing power over a mt which is fine for site work but the mlt has the edge when pushing muck etc
How is this extra pushing power developed with both models having the same engine and it would be extremely rare for Manitou to start adjusting Hydrostatic Transmission Pumps /. Motors - what would they have to gain? surely a manufacturer wants it's machines to perform regardless of which industry it operates in.
is that not just down to the lack of traction due to those silly little tyres?
ACEngineering
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Last time i looked at parts books they both had same part number for hydro pump and motors.
Mlt will have better bigger tyres.
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I stand corrected motors are same for mt and mlt age dependant but i see at least 3 part numbers for hydro pumps although this maybe age dependant too? hard to know without 2 identical aged machines and serial numbers.
I wouldnt think a mlt will push any different to a mt though. The limiting factor normally is grip from tyres. If you put agri tyres on the mt theres no readon why it wont push just the same.
If anything the mt is slightly slower on road which i put down to tyres before but maybe not so if they use a tweeked pump up at the top end.
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ACEngineering
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Probably not
so long as your using suitable sized attachments and not expecting to use all you old ones which I expect will be a good bit wider than the MT625?fendtfiasco
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Think there is a difference in the diffs, the mlt has limited slip diffs for traction and the mt doesn't also salesman said more push in the mlt 75hp versus 49 and something to do with transmission settings. Are the travel speeds the same ?
I looked at a mlt and ended up buying a JCB 525 60. Quicker delivery, preferred the joystick to the JSM , more torque 300 nm versus 265nm on the mlt 30k. Faster boom speed lift lower etc in the agri plus version. Aircon and pin and cone system with hydraulic release, didn't go for smoothride as it was expensive, possibly a false economy bit bouncy on the road. 400 wide tyres on the mlt compared to 325 on the JCB.
Hydrostatic good around the yard but doesn't like hills.
I looked at a mlt and ended up buying a JCB 525 60. Quicker delivery, preferred the joystick to the JSM , more torque 300 nm versus 265nm on the mlt 30k. Faster boom speed lift lower etc in the agri plus version. Aircon and pin and cone system with hydraulic release, didn't go for smoothride as it was expensive, possibly a false economy bit bouncy on the road. 400 wide tyres on the mlt compared to 325 on the JCB.
Hydrostatic good around the yard but doesn't like hills.
ACEngineering
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You can get the MT625 with 75hp or 49hp
Both MT and MLT 625 have always had limited slip diffs as standard, same as the bigger machines.
Most JCB limited slip diffs are optional on construction spec.
Would the hydrostatic be good enough to drive up a silage pit with lorry tyres when covering a pit?
We currently have a 530-70 construction spec but I liked the size of a 625 I saw recently.
Someone mentioned that a JCB headstock can't be fitted to these, surely there is someone manufacturing these?
I'd imagine parts are reasonable and easily got given the amount of them on construction sites?
Are there any major problems? Are they hard service given the size of them?
We currently have a 530-70 construction spec but I liked the size of a 625 I saw recently.
Someone mentioned that a JCB headstock can't be fitted to these, surely there is someone manufacturing these?
I'd imagine parts are reasonable and easily got given the amount of them on construction sites?
Are there any major problems? Are they hard service given the size of them?