Marcus Rashford and missi g a trick.......

delilah

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Anyone remember Keith Deller ? Won the darts world championship as a baby faced amateur, famously drank milk whilst his opponents were downing lager. Wasn't long before a beer company had got him signed up. We are singularly crap at spotting an opportunity.
 

Danllan

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The uncomfortable truth is this has really been a BBC campaign, he is the poster boy - being perfect fodder for the BBC as it currently is; nonetheless, if it was his idea to start with (which is just about possible...), all credit to him for it. But it took off due to relentless BBC promotion, on radio, television and online.

Regardless of whether one thinks this is a good or bad thing to have, there must be a questioning over the BBC's News department's continued involvement in politics. They keep making and shaping news, 'stirring' and inciting, rather than reporting it; when did Churchill's statue near Parliament become 'controversial', but that is how the BBC have being referring to it...?
 

caveman

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East Sussex.
Young Marcus apparently planning his next move now.
Get in there and influence him.
Think of the kudos to the industry if all bps recipients pledged a percentage of their payment towards providing free milk to primary school kids.
Maggie obtained tremendous notoriety for snatching it away.
 

fgc325j

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The uncomfortable truth is this has really been a BBC campaign, he is the poster boy - being perfect fodder for the BBC as it currently is; nonetheless, if it was his idea to start with (which is just about possible...), all credit to him for it. But it took off due to relentless BBC promotion, on radio, television and online.

Regardless of whether one thinks this is a good or bad thing to have, there must be a questioning over the BBC's News department's continued involvement in politics. They keep making and shaping news, 'stirring' and inciting, rather than reporting it; when did Churchill's statue near Parliament become 'controversial', but that is how the BBC have being referring to it...?
Watching BBC breakfast time this morning, and i was suprised at how the presenters were "bigging" themselves up - "you only recorded
the interview with Marcus on Sunday, we showed it Monday morning, and yesterday the Prime Minister announced the change in policy"
You got to admit, it takes talent to brown nose yourself.
 

Hampton

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BASIS
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Shropshire

Robt

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Suffolk
We can all help. I have just tweeted him (it will be his team managing his account now, but they will be looking for maximum exposure to increase the brand of him) so if all of us tweet it may just catch their attention.
 

caveman

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East Sussex.
But, re: Rashford - a laudable attempt by him to hold the Government to account, seems like he's doing Starmer's job for him.

His greatest asset (as I understand it), is that he hasn't gone down the them and us, political route.
Unlike the likes of the Beeb and that despicable turd O'Brien, this morning, trying to hang politics onto it.
 

SteveHants

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Livestock Farmer
You seem to be allowing your personal politics and preferences to take precedence over historical fact; you need to examine Hansard and the contemporary newspapers if you think he wasn't switched on regarding Hitler and Germany, these are independent and verifiable primary sources of historical information.

And you appear to be making the same mistake with regard to Enoch Powell, in inferring that they were both close to being Nazis. Of course you dislike Powell, but surely even you would give someone such as Tony Benn credit for not being a 'Nazi' and for having sufficient intelligence to recognise someone who was, wouldn't you? And yet Tony Benn was a personal friend of Enoch Powell and stated that he wasn't - using the term then fashionable - a 'racialist'.

Again you make an historical error in conflating the removal of Churchill from power and dislike / distrust of him as PM and wartime leader. The population, in the wake of and following the privations of WW2, wanted massive social change and Churchill simply wasn't the one to do it. Clearly the Left thought he was the right man for the wartime job, they got and kept him in power. (y)

The BBC doesn't even pretend to offer free debate, it promotes - indeed pushes - identity politics and 'wokeness' at every opportunity. I think it knows its time is limited and that it wants to get the boot into the political Right while it still can.

It is very unlikely that Mr Rashford either began or is organising the current thing - although it's just about possible. We shall have to hold our breaths for the long seconds it will take for the socialist Sir Keir Starmer to jump on the bandwagon.

I don't care really whether Tony Benn (as much as I admire him) thought Powell was a racist. I do, and if you look at his speeches, he, much like Adolf is very "Blood and Soil", ie, equates nationality with race.

The BBC certainly does "pretend" to offer open debate - I have seen figures such as Tommy Robinson appear on debates about race, UKIP on question time and even in the not so distant past, the shady figure of Nick Griffin being asked for his opinion, in the brief renaissance that the BNP enjoyed before UKIP stole their support base. I have also seen open Tories (such as Kussenberg) in prominent positions reporting the news etc.
They do also bring on the odd leftist figure to argue the other side.
You will never, see the BBC argue for systemic change.

I find it interesting that you think a Mancunian footballer incapable of arguing for greater social provision for the most needy. Wythenshaw was once "the biggest council estate in Europe" do you not suppose that he has seen the ravages of austerity and neglect there?
 

delilah

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It is very unlikely that Mr Rashford either began or is organising the current thing - although it's just about possible.

You may be doing footballers a disservice. Whilst they are supposed to have their brains in their boots, they aren't as daft as they often sound.
They ran rings round common opinion over the coronavirus wage cut thing, pointing out with some justification that a cut in their wages would see a fall in tax revenue, and instead organised their own 'just giving' initiative. Yes some of them are thick as a plank, but that stands for any industry.
As Man City fans sing, "We all live in a Robbie Fowler house". Shrewd investment houses.
 

caveman

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Location
East Sussex.
You may be doing footballers a disservice. Whilst they are supposed to have their brains in their boots, they aren't as daft as they often sound.
They ran rings round common opinion over the coronavirus wage cut thing, pointing out with some justification that a cut in their wages would see a fall in tax revenue, and instead organised their own 'just giving' initiative. Yes some of them are thick as a plank, but that stands for any industry.
As Man City fans sing, "We all live in a Robbie Fowler house". Shrewd investment houses.
Robbie doing well as a coach in Aussie A league.
 

Steevo

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Gloucestershire
Are the Dairy sector going to get him signed up to promote free milk for all school kids?
Any other sectors up for promoting their produce for the free school meals scheme?
Or will the free dinners just be chlorinated chicken swizzlers?

Great idea of putting money where mouth is.

Just imagine if UK school meals aimed to use UK produce......a real case of the country showing they valued the standards they impose as they claim them to be important.

Not to mention if they did it with all public sector catering!
 

delilah

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I'm off out now, so just going to lob this in there and retreat.
Those who are doubting Marcus Rashford capable of instigating an initiative: is your scepticism based on him being a footballer, or being black, or both ?
 

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