Margin per cow

Discussion in 'Dairy Farming' started by supercow, Apr 4, 2017.

  1. supercow

    supercow Member

    Obviously I'm not going on and on... But your arguement was clearly I'm paying too much for our cake.
     
  2. supercow

    supercow Member

    I listen to my mum firstly, and dad, vet, my nutritionists, our labour force and my amazing girlfriend, I do not however listen to the bull on here that's posted sometimes
     
  3. More to life

    More to life Member

    Location:
    Somerset
    That's the thing one mans bull is another mans sense. In most things your mum will be right tho.
     
  4. supercow

    supercow Member

    It's all opinions at the end of the day. I try scout for the sense posts, and there are plenty of them.
     
  5. pappuller

    pappuller Member

    Location:
    cheshire
  6. Thomas-milmain

    Location:
    Sw Scotland
    Is this total?
     
  7. pappuller

    pappuller Member

    Location:
    cheshire
    Probablt just the cake, turn water into wine in devon dont you know:facepalm:
     
  8. Bald Rick

    Bald Rick Member

    Location:
    Anglesey
    If you are buying it as an individual farmer, then yes you will be paying more for it and your feed rep thanks you most kindly.

    I suspect that @Will Blackburn is, like me, part of a buying group or Co-Op (hence his non disclosure comment earlier). I will say that it is a "no brainer" as you will more than likely save the initial cost of membership within your first load. We did

    As for Margin/Cow, it all comes down to quality of home grown forage. We have made some absolute sh!t this year and are suffering for it. Roll on a nice dry summer with rainfall every so often but not too much
     
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  9. coomoo

    coomoo Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    12.1
    Simple here on 42 kg silage 8kg 20% blend 1.5 he molasses and targeting getting 18% parlour cake down from 5kg to 3kg av nearly there and yield up slightly. Silage a mixture of first and second cuts. 036F4D65-01A7-4598-86FF-AAD95C0C560C.jpeg F6966C55-097B-4665-A07D-3F45F8454C18.jpeg
     
  10. Thomas-milmain

    Location:
    Sw Scotland
    How many litres you getting ?
     
  11. coomoo

    coomoo Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    30litres @ 4.37 bf 3.35 pro but feeding hard for it
     
  12. Will Blackburn

    Location:
    Cheshire
    No, you asked if it was a fair price, it might be, but you could get it for less.

    Back in the day a great rep Don Mackey used to tell us everything that was going on all over Cheshire and beyond. Don't remember any talk of costings or nutritional advice, but he was definitely good value.

    Laterly we had silage testing, nutritional advice and financial data with the feed supply, this wasn't good value.

    More recently we are part of a group buy. Total purchased feed cost is about 6ppl, so I run a decent car myself instead of funding a reps car.
     
  13. So your averaging 13kg of hard feed?
     
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  14. coomoo

    coomoo Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    Yep way too much by start of week will of stepped down to 11kg, every little helps :unsure:
     
  15. Durry cows

    Durry cows Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    I’m planning next winters feeding currently just under 4ppl purchased feed mopf £220 next winter I’m planning >21kgdm average 12me which I believe should supply me m +32 or thereabouts but would be interested to hear others thoughts? This would be grass silage maize silage and brewers grains only...?
     
  16. coomoo

    coomoo Member

    Location:
    Scotland
    Sounds like my current journey from feed reps to independent.
     
  17. pappuller

    pappuller Member

    Location:
    cheshire
    You not feeding any hard feed ? Do you think youll get those intakes on all bulk inputs ? V impressive if you can do it, how much grains you hoping to feed ?
     
  18. Durry cows

    Durry cows Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    Am at the minute soya and biscuit meal 2kg of each. Next winter is what that plan is getting based around...hypothetically 7kgdm of each feed but that would put the grains high (40% dm gives 17.5kg) which be too high, against 18 pro 12 me grass silage maize and grains in 50/50 split gives starch and good quality cooked protein(some bypass) so grains @ 24pro maize @ 8-10 gives balance between the 2 @ 17 or thereabouts so makes a nice open tasty ration? Might have to chuck a kg of protein source in and like you say need the dm intake rough dm of the tmr be 30-35 depending on forages
     
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  19. Maxxum-man

    Maxxum-man Member

    Location:
    North west
    Good silage takes some beating (y)
     

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  20. Durry cows

    Durry cows Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    Bales?
     

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