Maris Otter

[Brisel]

I smell a rat. Are you a grower or a merchant?

 

[southernfarmer]

grower and a good one at that!

 

[Flat 10]

grower and a good one at that!

Even if you do say so yourself...........

 

[lloyd]

grower and a good one at that!

As seen on tv or in the yellow peril?

 

[southernfarmer]

Don,t know about the tv bit but had a bit of input/coverage in yellow peril. Need to sell ourselves as no-one else does

 

[capt.spiffing]

What are the specs that Otter has to achieve?
Is there a certain distance you have to be from
Mr Appels malts?

Same as a standard winter barley but with lower nitrogen, max 1.6% ish.....distance isnt relevant as they supply all over the uk, not just their own maltings......

 

[Pilatus]

Anyone cut any Maris Otter yet this season? Today the farm where I drove a combine last year started cutting theirs today.

 

[Brisel]

My neighbour has. 5.5 t/ha

 

[Pilatus]

What would the premium over feed barley be "IF IT MADE THE GRADE FOR MALTING" this year?

 

[southernfarmer]

Mine all moved into store in wilts at significant premium, no claims and all dry, 6.4t/ha drilled late Oct and lots of straw, baled & moved at good money,looking to double area sown to it. Lower input costs and good premium again for 21 agronomist even keen on it.....wake up and smell the coffee guys, value added markets & supply chains beat high input hope for big price punt.

 

[lloyd]

Mine all moved into store in wilts at significant premium, no claims and all dry, 6.4t/ha drilled late Oct and lots of straw, baled & moved at good money,looking to double area sown to it. Lower input costs and good premium again for 21 agronomist even keen on it.....wake up and smell the coffee guys, value added markets & supply chains beat high input hope for big price punt.

Well done but if everyone woke up and smelt the coffee your premiums would
soon disappear.

 

[southernfarmer]

I leave that to those who can hopefully balance supply against demand and keep premiums up, if they don’t then we all stop, variety is 50 something years old, I grow peas, milling wheat, oats and spring barley all on contract , yes some years better than others but get on well with buyers, understand what they want and happy to grow for a market...the only way in my humble opinion, happy for others to keep flogging commodity route, good luck going forward!

 

[Pilatus]

I leave that to those who can hopefully balance supply against demand and keep premiums up, if they don’t then we all stop, variety is 50 something years old, I grow peas, milling wheat, oats and spring barley all on contract , yes some years better than others but get on well with buyers, understand what they want and happy to grow for a market...the only way in my humble opinion, happy for others to keep flogging commodity route, good luck going forward!

What types of soil do you farm and how far south?

 

[southernfarmer]

Andover series chalky loam with clay cap, all across mid Hampshire

 

[ajd132]

Thought about it but choose to grow craft malting barley on our heavy land. Similarly cheap to grow as marris otter but without the much lower yield.

 

[robbie]

Other than perhaps 20 or 30 units less N how is malting any cheaper to grow than feed??? They both need 2 fungicides and some pgr. But the malting has a lower potential and is a fiver a ton premium really going to make up for the yield especially when you add in the fact that your dealing with maltsters who are the biggest rogues going. A redirection charge for a rejected load would make I less per ton than feed.

@ajd123 I'm curious as to why on heavy clay would you grow malting barley surely feed would be a better prospect. Heavy land to me always means high N in barley.

 

[teslacoils]

Might as well grow a malting variety even on heavy land. Just dump all the fert in the seedbed. If it's going to a central store then the odd load may pass and no hassle from mills

 

[T Hectares]

This FW video from last year gives a good comparison, two nearby growers ( one good one at that ? ) with the Craft giving 2t/ha over the Otter, given the Craft will have cost £20/ha less in Fungicide and undoubtedly lower seed costs then I can't see that the Otter is going turn a better margin, although without knowing what premium the Craft was sold for it's hard to say.

Harvest 2019 video: Hampshire grower pleased with barley yields and quality - Farmers Weekly

Hampshire grower Sam Burge is pleased with initial yields of his Maris Otter winter malting barley crop destined for the craft ale market. Cutting of the

www.fwi.co.uk

At least the Craft would still hopefully turn a decent margin without the malting premium ??

 

[Bogweevil]

Mine all moved into store in wilts at significant premium, no claims and all dry, 6.4t/ha drilled late Oct and lots of straw, baled & moved at good money,looking to double area sown to it. Lower input costs and good premium again for 21 agronomist even keen on it.....wake up and smell the coffee guys, value added markets & supply chains beat high input hope for big price punt.

So yesterday SF, malting spelt is where it is at in the 2020s.

 

[fred.950]

Mine all moved into store in wilts at significant premium, no claims and all dry, 6.4t/ha drilled late Oct and lots of straw, baled & moved at good money,looking to double area sown to it. Lower input costs and good premium again for 21 agronomist even keen on it.....wake up and smell the coffee guys, value added markets & supply chains beat high input hope for big price punt.

Do you mind me asking which store it’s gone to?