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scottishsnake
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I'm currently pricing a marshall Vesuvius 1500, the little one. On paper it seems to have a good bit less quoted weight capacity and cubic capacity than everyone else's supposed 9/10 ton machines.... Is it an awful little thing, or are Marshall quoting a level load where everyone else is talking heaped loads?
Probably are.
Anything more than a level load in the Marshall & muck falls over the top of the pushing plate as it goes back towards the beaters. Then gets dragged back towards drawbar when you retract ram for next load.
scottishsnake
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Cheers for that. Just trying to figure out how depressed I'm going to be coming from a 12 ton Richard Western I have been hiring in recent years..... Which has it's problems but it's nonetheless a very well made machine that shifts a phenomenal amount of stuff in a day. Would you buy a marshall again having lived with it?
On my second. Wouldn’t buy a third.
First one which was 2002 was a lot more reliable. Had a lot of hydraulic issues on current one with electro/hydraulic control valve block that controls ram speed. Have had 3 hydraulic pumps fail on tractor while using it too.
Pistonbroke
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Never weighed a load but I would guess 6 ton would be a load in a 1500. Three good heaped 7'6 buckets is a load in ours
ColinV6
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Is a Richard western crazy money these days?
ours is 4 years old now and I love it. Been absolutely faultless and as you say it’s amazing what you can shift in a day, loaded to the gunnels.
scottishsnake
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Holy Christ, oh no no no that's not gonna do
Pistonbroke
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Get a bigger model then. Not much surprise if a 9 ton doesn't hold as much as a 12. How much actual weight was the one carrying that you were using? As far as I can see the weight of the spreader eg12 ton is the spreader loaded not the weight of muckHoly Christ, oh no no no that's not gonna do
scottishsnake
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Haven't priced them... Maybe need to. No question a very well built and finished machine. Just the outdoor pig sh!t from the huts has a lot of earth.... Which packs badly in the channels for the back door because there's no way out for it.... Issues have ensued.... Let's leave it at that
scottishsnake
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No... Black muck any spreader I've worked, if it says 12 ton in the book, you can pile 14 on. The 1500 marshall says 9, so you'd hope for ten
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Agrihire. Built like the proverbial, Does what it says on the tin, no messing, operator orientated. Nuff said
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scottishsnake
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Aye, it's a very well finished, long lasting Heavy duty machine, and for a contractor, definitely up there with the big boys..... But for a farmer struggling to justify a new spreader in the first place... If you're looking at a ten ton machine, it's a premium machine, no question, but let's just say the price reflects that.
ColinV6
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I think in 2020 ours was £19k brand new, for the D4095 model. It holds a really good load mind you. Just took it on a 4+44 deal so it’s finished and paid off now and the machine still looks like new. Plus it’s now an asset which will always have a value.
ollie989898
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You gotta weigh up how often you will use the thing vs hiring it or using a contractor.
The bigger spreaders, such as the above, can soon move some muck in a day and the tractor and man on it is costing you the same whether it is hauling 12 tonne or 9 tonne really.
The bigger spreaders, such as the above, can soon move some muck in a day and the tractor and man on it is costing you the same whether it is hauling 12 tonne or 9 tonne really.
scottishsnake
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Aye, they hold a hell of a load.... And they do stay fresh looking for a long time, I think they must get their paint from god, or maybe even NASAs shuttle re entry coatings department
. Pricing has changed a bit since 2020 then.... Looking at about 32 for a ten tonner
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ColinV6
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Ouch! £32k would take a bit more justifying. Like you we had no trade in, just started from
Scratch. That’s now approx £665 a month on a 4+44 deal that’s assuming they still do 0% on it too.
Considering it’s parked in a shed for 10 months of the year that’s a lot of money to spend.
Having said that, will they be £40k in another 4 years time?? Todays machine is cheap tomorrow sort of thing? Unfortunately rhe job hasn’t kept up with machinery costs.
Scratch. That’s now approx £665 a month on a 4+44 deal that’s assuming they still do 0% on it too.
Considering it’s parked in a shed for 10 months of the year that’s a lot of money to spend.
Having said that, will they be £40k in another 4 years time?? Todays machine is cheap tomorrow sort of thing? Unfortunately rhe job hasn’t kept up with machinery costs.
ColinV6
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Thats a large machine! How much does it hold? Even ours with dense strawy shed muck can use all of a T7.210 when your pulling it plus the PTO on and bed running.