Mass Trespass?

Boysground

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Wiltshire

Has taken 2 years and a lot of work but parted ways with one milk processor paying what is now one of the lowest prices in the country. Having moved was offered a premium contract, lots of hoops to jump through one of which is the cows have to graze. It’s kept everyone busy but quite exciting to be looking forward to turnout. Cows have been in for 10 years so a bit of a change of system

@Lazy Sod will give you something to look for when you drive by :)

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Dead Rabbits

Member
Location
'Merica
It's hardly new, is it? http://kindertrespass.org.uk/kinder-mass-trespass-history/
Our US posters might not get it, but the one thing that the USA does very well is have massive areas of land that the public does have access to for sport and recreation whereas this is extremely limited in the UK - This possibly has something to do with many early settlers in the US coming from places such as the UK and Ireland.
Seem to have different trespass laws as well. Access
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
I hold titles for some land, I've worked hard to gain those titles. Every year, I spend hard earned money to maintain/improve that land, and keep it in a condition suitable to grow food... Other people have bought houses, cars, holidays, booze, drugs, paid for hookers or dossed away their dole. Why should those who have done those other things have any access or rights to my land?
I remember talking to a bricklayer at work, he said he had bought his council house, and saved and put in a new central heating system, his brother was a tenant of the housing association and he had been given a new central heating system at no cost, and spent all his money on holidays, cars, pub etc. Anyway he was not happy that his brother was rewarded for not saving.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
It's hardly new, is it? http://kindertrespass.org.uk/kinder-mass-trespass-history/
Our US posters might not get it, but the one thing that the USA does very well is have massive areas of land that the public does have access to for sport and recreation whereas this is extremely limited in the UK - This possibly has something to do with many early settlers in the US coming from places such as the UK and Ireland.
I am sure, the Americans are surprised that our national parks are all private land too, and are owned by individuals.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
And what % of your hard earned money comes form the taxpayer in the form of subs, maybe opening up the country side for them to see how their "hard earned"money is being spent is not that bad an idea
I would argue that subsidies allow farmers to produce food at equal to or below the cost of production, this then allows the supermarkets to sell cheap food, so ultimately subsidies allow food to cost a tiny historical fraction of take home pay. No subsidy, either a great change in how food is produced or a lot of abandoned land and job losses in the countryside.
 

Bootneck

Member
Location
East Sussex
The countryside IS ALREADY OPEN. We have hundreds of thousands of miles of footpaths all over the place. More than in any comparable densely populated country. You try walking through a farm in the USA, france, Scandinavia etc, you are not allowed. Yes those places have more wilderness where you are allowed to go, but you cannot cross most farmland like you can here. My place has footpaths all over the place, through my yard, across fields, I have to maintain the stiles etc and suffer the gates left open, but I don't really complain too much. To say the countryside is closed off is simply untrue.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
What’s this trash now? Capitalism ain’t perfect but it’s the least bad system ever devised. What is being suggested by these people is probably one of the most destabilizing things you can ever do in a society, make property ownership uncertain.
I remember reading an article in the business section of the paper, talking about property rights/ownership rights and how having those rights is a precursor to stable economic growth, this is why all the Russian oligarchs stash their dosh in London and one of the reasons the industrial revolution started in the UK
 

Bootneck

Member
Location
East Sussex
Some of you boys need to speak up a bit. I can't hear you due to the racket being made by all the ladders being pulled up.
I have let an acre of land to a young couple for free to develop an organic vegetable and flower business, and space in my yard for their business and for them to live in their caravan for free. Because they show a commitment to the land and the countryside, so I'm happy to help them. I'm fine with people walking the footpaths although I do get problems. But I'm totally opposed to mass trespass and others claiming my 100 acres as their own when it was bought by me, worked by me, I've invested everything in it. These protesters have not.
 

delilah

Member
I have let an acre of land to a young couple for free to develop an organic vegetable and flower business, and space in my yard for their business and for them to live in their caravan for free. Because they show a commitment to the land and the countryside, so I'm happy to help them. I'm fine with people walking the footpaths although I do get problems. But I'm totally opposed to mass trespass and others claiming my 100 acres as their own when it was bought by me, worked by me, I've invested everything in it. These protesters have not.

I was only baiting, didn't want an entirely reasonable reply :) .
 

PuG

Member
Follow the ring leader(s) home and spend the rest part the day fuc?ing around in their garden , as they say what good for the goose

accept there the type of people squatting in someone else's house or parked up illegally in a van or wagon throwing rubbish out. All cut from the same cloth. The few protestors who actually have a point or genuine care/motive but still manage to it in a respectful manor to be overwhelmed by the nutters...
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
And what % of your hard earned money comes form the taxpayer in the form of subs, maybe opening up the country side for them to see how their "hard earned"money is being spent is not that bad an idea
:rolleyes: Opening up access is a very different topic to that of unlawful trespass. Well if we follow the "its tax payer funded so we own it kind of thinking"..... I think I shall try exploring government properties in Downing street, the Queens residences, MI5, MI6, spend some time in the local NHS operating theatres and perhaps tour around some RAF aircraft hangers and other military institutions... might also check out properties in James Turner Street, Birmingham (aka Benefits Street) though in that case it would not particularly because I want to but just because I want to see where my taxes go....
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
:rolleyes: Opening up access is a very different topic to that of unlawful trespass. Well if we follow the "its tax payer funded so we own it kind of thinking"..... I think I shall try exploring government properties in Downing street, the Queens residences, MI5, MI6, spend some time in the local NHS operating theatres and perhaps tour around some RAF aircraft hangers and other military institutions... might also check out properties in James Turner Street, Birmingham (aka Benefits Street) though in that case it would not particularly because I want to but just because I want to see where my taxes go....
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