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Discussion in 'Classic Machinery' started by massey135, Nov 20, 2018.
Hi, anyone any experience of a Massey 20e or 250? How do they compare to a 135?
Is the 250 not just a 148 with new style cab?
No i think the 250 was more like a 240 with heavier backend. 550 came after the 148
The 250 would be more likely to have 32'' rear tyres(like the 148) and would have wet brakes.PAS too. 47hp against 45hp in the 135. Alternator rather than dynamo too and decent cab....
Yes quite a bit heavier with the wet brakes than the 135. Also 8 inches longer like a 148. Ours sometimes feels under powered.
msheep66 I'm going to view one this week in the hope of buying and just trying to get as much information as possible. Looking for an upgrade on the 135 for a small holding and fancied a more comfortable cab and power steering and the heavier backend would also be useful!
What sort of mph do you get on the road?
There is no pick up hitch on this one, would a puh from a 165 for instance fit okay?
Are the rear hubs the same size as those on a 165?
Do they have independent pto or dual stage clutch?
I would have thought the 135 value would be higher going forward, but could be wrong.
Ours is a multipower so its quite quick on the road 21mph I woiuld think but standard box is 8 speed would do about 18mph.
Yes I would think a puh from a 165 would fit
Hubs off a 165 would be the same certainly the last of the 165s
Ours has an independent pto I believe all 250s had same.
MF 250.What an awesome machine.Multi power and 32in radials on my baby.82 vintage.Purrs along nicely and lovely to drive.Never been dairyized.
Lovely machine! What size have you on the front?
Looks like 6.50x19 on the front.......
Ours is underpowered but 4wd and massey 80 power loader doesn't help .
I would say 4wd wouldn't help a 47hp tractor but it must be handy all the same. Most opinions seem to be that they are under powered but anything bigger like a 360 or 362 are serious money.
We had one here years ago and it was affectionately called "Two Rattles" by the barky exhaust and the rattling cab.
Can you fit a turbo ?
Why stop there? A 540 V8 would cure all the problems!
Or a rover V8. A T20 with one of those won a speed ploughing class down here, two furrow against all the multis!
I always feel mine is underpowered perhaps running the power steering and the heavier backend ? The front tyres need changing to heavier ply ones and to get the best out of it a bit of weight on the front on the front helps .Mine was to replace a 35x but kept the old one which overall if you dont mind the lack of cab is a better tractor .I have done 5500 hrs on the 250 been no trouble
So i went to see a 250 (actually a 20e painted over) and it was pretty rough. The hydraulics and pto werent working and the steering was heavy with lots of play. Is there much to go wrong with the hydraulics, the owner reckoned it was a handy clean of the filter? And would it take much to overhaul the steering?
Is it making any attempt to lift the arms?
If you have to internal on the hydraulics, it might cost a bit ..........
Filter it would still work especially at the beginning, then die off as it was used?
Steering, well you can see the bits needed, might have a tight kingpin, but that's being optimistic.
Pull him down well on the price or let him do the "handy" stuff before making a deal.
No response in the arms, he says he shook hay in the summer and they started to slow up a bit but he reckons he can get it sorted. I think he's being optimistic.
The steering was terrible, felt like there was no assistance whatsoever and the wander across the road was shocking.
It also needed a bit of heat to start and there was plenty of black smoke but the engine was very responsive when I had it out.
Back tyres are original, have decent grip but are cracking. Front the same.
Parts of the flat sheet of the cab would need cut out and replaced and some parts of the interior cladding over the gearbox is missing as well as the roof section.