Massey 6495/6499 Question

Tonyh7740

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Does anyone have experience of these or very similar Masseys? I’m more of a New Holland man but can’t find anything suitable, the 6495 etc are after catching my eye. They seem to have a good spec. Full suspension is a must for me, I’ve heard fellas saying the Massey are a reliable and comfortable tractor on the road?? I mainly want it for towing, no PTO work. I think the 6495 and 99 would have enough power for me too. Any info appreciated! Thanks.
 

Farma Parma

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6495 6.6lt Sisu
6499 & 6497 both 7.4lt Sisu
Get a 99 if you can you wont regret it.
Just be sure its D6 gox if thats what your looking at is all ok.
earlier Dynashift in the Tier2's no issues. but they only did 40k flatout
where as a 50k D6 will do that around 2000revs & 56k flatout.
 

Tonyh7740

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6495 6.6lt Sisu
6499 & 6497 both 7.4lt Sisu
Get a 99 if you can you wont regret it.
Just be sure its D6 gox if thats what your looking at is all ok.
earlier Dynashift in the Tier2's no issues. but they only did 40k flatout
where as a 50k D6 will do that around 2000revs & 56k flatout.
I’m hearing the SISU are good engine to be fair. Silly question but how does the Dyna 6 work when driving? Do you have 6 gears in the range before you have to clutch it for the next range or what? And are they on a button or do you keep moving a lever to go up each gear? 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

Farma Parma

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I’m hearing the SISU are good engine to be fair. Silly question but how does the Dyna 6 work when driving? Do you have 6 gears in the range before you have to clutch it for the next range or what? And are they on a button or do you keep moving a lever to go up each gear? 🤷🏻‍♂️
Dyna 6 is simply a Semi powershift trans
6 powershifts(Dynashifts) & 4 physical gears all electro robotically shifted with no manual gear stick.
And a fully clutchless forward & reverse shuttle unit on top.
It can be simply operated in full auto so preset a start off gear say 3C & then let it move up or down the shifts & gears as needed
or in manual mode where you have to press the button on the armrest T bar & you change up or down the 4 gears.
pushing the T bar forward or back ups or downs the 6 Dynashifts
 

Tonyh7740

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Dyna 6 is simply a Semi powershift trans
6 powershifts(Dynashifts) & 4 physical gears all electro robotically shifted with no manual gear stick.
And a fully clutchless forward & reverse shuttle unit on top.
It can be simply operated in full auto so preset a start off gear say 3C & then let it move up or down the shifts & gears as needed
or in manual mode where you have to press the button on the armrest T bar & you change up or down the 4 gears.
pushing the T bar forward or back ups or downs the 6 Dynashifts
Just watched a you tube video on Dyna 6 in a 99, it looks confusing but I’m sure it’s just a matter of getting used to it. I’m only familiar with New Holland Range Command which is very simple.
 

Farma Parma

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Simple, solid, strong tractors. I have a couple of 6400 series and am very pleased with them.
They are too be fair,folks whinge on oh there out of date & have a 1990's 6 post cab design blah blah blah
they still do everything you expect a tractor to do & mostly without must fuss.
Just the words of warning buying a well used esp larger 6485 up & poss worser for this is the higher HP ones so ya 6495/99 etc is that D6 trans can fail in 3rd gear.
& if it does its not a overally cheap fix. I dont care what others say oh its nowt, take it too a main dealer & be sitting down if that gives trouble.
 
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Steevo

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They are too be fair,folks whinge on oh there out of date & have a 1990's 6 pots cab design blah blah blah
they still do everything you expect a tractor to do & mostly without must fuss.
Just the words of warning buying a well used esp larger 6485 up & poss worser for this is the higher HP ones so ya 6495/99 etc is that D6 trans can fail in 3rd gear.
& if it does its not a overally cheap fix. I dont care what others say oh its nowt, take it too a main dealer & be sitting down if that gives trouble.

Wise words there.

I wouldn’t fancy buying any tractor with high hours on these days. Absolute max 4500hrs for me, ideally 4000 or less.
 

Farma Parma

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Just watched a you tube video on Dyna 6 in a 99, it looks confusing but I’m sure it’s just a matter of getting used to it. I’m only familiar with New Holland Range Command which is very simple.
Is that the one at the massey training place. its a oldun that now.
Its easier to jump on one & just see how it does what it does & its very simple to use too be honest.
You can switch between Field & Transport modes even still today on 7700 & 7S & lower ranges be the same.
Where it wont change Gears & beep at you if you try n go past either end of the Dynashifts in whatever gear your in & this is perfect for a lot of field jobs.
but then change it too Transport & thats it in full Auto
 

FrasseSweden

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Just watched a you tube video on Dyna 6 in a 99, it looks confusing but I’m sure it’s just a matter of getting used to it. I’m only familiar with New Holland Range Command which is very simple.
It's not any hard to drive D6, but the best is to try one out before you buy. And if i was you and that not are a huge price diffrent between 95 and 99 i should take the 99 all day of the week. It works fine on the road and you have a lot of Power in the field.
 
We have a 95. It was bought 2nd hand with just under 3k hours. Now at just under 13k hours. Been a good tractor to us. We haven't had the 3rd range problem yet but ours is 40k. Apparently they dont suffer as much for some strange reason. Good tractors but even the last of them will be 10 years old. Gearbox takes a wee bit of getting used too if your a nh man but you will get up to it.
 

Farma Parma

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We have a 95. It was bought 2nd hand with just under 3k hours. Now at just under 13k hours. Been a good tractor to us. We haven't had the 3rd range problem yet but ours is 40k. Apparently they dont suffer as much for some strange reason. Good tractors but even the last of them will be 10 years old. Gearbox takes a wee bit of getting used too if your a nh man but you will get up to it.
Its funny you say that about the 40kph versions but ive heard the same... weird aint it.
4th gear is the only diff in that gearbox its a taller ratio.
& whatever is diff with the brakes ?
3F is faster than 4A in a 40k box
3F is slower than 4A in a 50k box
Thats it.
 
Its funny you say that about the 40kph versions but ive heard the same... weird aint it.
4th gear is the only diff in that gearbox its a taller ratio.
& whatever is diff with the brakes ?
3F is faster than 4A in a 40k box
3F is slower than 4A in a 50k box
Thats it.
Could never quite understand it either but that's what I was told. 40k and the smaller frame (6480/7618 and below) rarely do it. Always confused me as well that it never seems to be mentioned in the hexactiv class transmission since it's the same time unit.
 

Farma Parma

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Could never quite understand it either but that's what I was told. 40k and the smaller frame (6480/7618 and below) rarely do it. Always confused me as well that it never seems to be mentioned in the hexactiv class transmission since it's the same time unit.
Diff software that controls all that in the Claas tractor & its very rare it fails so i hear anyways.
Massey & Software have went backwards in the last few years it seems.
My now 10year old 7799 has never had a single update & amazingly it just works.
 

tr250

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Could never quite understand it either but that's what I was told. 40k and the smaller frame (6480/7618 and below) rarely do it. Always confused me as well that it never seems to be mentioned in the hexactiv class transmission since it's the same time unit.
After being a through and through mf man for 20 odd years we have just bought a claas whether or not it’s sales bull shxt I don’t know but claas man has assured me that the gearbox is not the same and that claas have theirs made to their own spec and that contains stronger parts than the mf equivalent although from the outside it looks identical. Time will tell although ours won’t be an issue as it’s a small frame
 

daveydiesel1

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After being a through and through mf man for 20 odd years we have just bought a claas whether or not it’s sales bull shxt I don’t know but claas man has assured me that the gearbox is not the same and that claas have theirs made to their own spec and that contains stronger parts than the mf equivalent although from the outside it looks identical. Time will tell although ours won’t be an issue as it’s a small frame
What model did u buy
 

tr250

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What model did u buy
Arion 530 so 4cyl 145hp. Rep thought we were bonkers because a 610 which is the same tractor with a 6cyl in it and it’s the same price but we needed it light and short because it’s for rolling avadex spreading etc and then can be demoted to feeder wagon in a few years time when our current 11000 hr feeder tractor gets un reliable
 

Wellytrack

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Arion 530 so 4cyl 145hp. Rep thought we were bonkers because a 610 which is the same tractor with a 6cyl in it and it’s the same price but we needed it light and short because it’s for rolling avadex spreading etc and then can be demoted to feeder wagon in a few years time when our current 11000 hr feeder tractor gets un reliable

Sounds a good choice IMO.
 

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