ISCO
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- Location
- North East
Meant years and not sure why smiley face apart from clumbsy thumb.Last we got 2 tears ago around £18er ton IIRC
Maxammon barley fattening ration.
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How many tons of grain will that treat?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
About 30t of grain at standard rates.
bosses son
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Do you need higher rates for higher moisture grain? And what moisture would be ideal?
ollie989898
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Am I right in thinking vermin/birds are less keen on urea treated grains? I'd think just getting away from the dust of rolled cereals (plus it's under a sheet rather than having to be stored dry) would be worth £30/tonne alone in my mind.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
About 18% ideal iirc, but can always add water if it’s drier. They used to say to add a higher rate if higher mc, but unsure of levels. Grain does have to be ripe though, not green, or it just gets hot iirc.
at 17 or 18 after 2 weeks it smells quite nice actually dont need to take the sheet off either if done correctly.
jurys still out on palatability for lambs tho atm , might try rolling abit.
jurys still out on palatability for lambs tho atm , might try rolling abit.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
You’d still have to roll it for cattle. Lift in protein level pays for the product (& probably what they use to price it
). Personally, i’d suggest the acidity buffering/safety of feeding aspect is probably one of the most valuable qualities, even if acidosis is often subclinical.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
On the vermin side, it certainly seems to be less attractive, but I think they get a taste for it. I have about 5t in the corner of the shed from last Autumn when I had to feed lambs. I was sitting on the tractor about 10 yards away a couple of days ago, talking on the phone, and I watched a rat trundling backwards and forwards from a pile of bales, helping himself to the Alkagrain.
Squirrels from the nearby wood seem to like it too. I have trapped or shot about a dozen there this Spring.
Squirrels from the nearby wood seem to like it too. I have trapped or shot about a dozen there this Spring.
Can it be spread out/cooled after the 2/3 weeks treatment?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I’m not sure of the process, but the heat is produced because the reaction with the urea. Doesn’t work the same iirc, so it’s not just the heat, but the treatment not working properly either. I dare say a few greens in the sample would be neither here nor there, but a lot of greens would be a no no. Harvesting that early would mean the starch level was compromised too, so why would you. Better to treat damp, but ripe, grain if you're going Down the urea treatment route.
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