Maxammon Grain Treatment

funny farm

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Location
south wales
Anyone using this, am interested but have heard mixed reports about it compared to caustic treated wheat. Seems a lot less hassle and safer than caustic soda. Does it feed as good as they claim.
 

dave160cvx

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Caithness
We've been doing it for 3yr now works very well. Yes it does smell but it doesn't bother animals at all. Feed to both cattle and sheep. We crimped for many years works well as far as early harvest etc goes but felt store cattle just weren't as far on as we wanted. Fair difference on maxamon. First year we bruised then mixed in feed wagon but now have an Feedmix maxamon applicator on our bruiser works well. Saves a double handling. Do a bit of contracting with it as well.
 

ISCO

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Location
North East
We been using this about 3 years as well. Feedmix mill and add maxxamon. Works very well, last year we mixed wheat and barley and it raised protein to over 15% as tested by Harbro. Also had independent test to check accuracy and this was the same. This year's maxamon just arrived this week
 
We were persuaded to try it after 2 years of sucessfully using 'home and dry'. We found that in comparison it wasnt as easy to use as the H&D as it has 2 elements that need to be well mixed for it to work rather than being premixed as a pellet. We found it gummed up the roller mill meaning we had to stop and clean it out twice on 250 tonnes. It was cheaper than H&D but I haave gone back to H&D and wouldnt be tempted to use the maxamon again.
 

dave160cvx

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Caithness
We were persuaded to try it after 2 years of sucessfully using 'home and dry'. We found that in comparison it wasnt as easy to use as the H&D as it has 2 elements that need to be well mixed for it to work rather than being premixed as a pellet. We found it gummed up the roller mill meaning we had to stop and clean it out twice on 250 tonnes. It was cheaper than H&D but I haave gone back to H&D and wouldnt be tempted to use the maxamon again.[/
 

beaconsboy

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Location
south powys
What is the cost of this product. And if you were using it as a fattening ration, could you get away with out putting any protein, the salesman says just chuck a bag in every bucket. Is this mixed enough. Doesn't seem to me. Could you use it to fatten lambs
 

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
whats Palatability like for sheep with either maxxamon or H+D , does it need to fed as part of ration to get them to eat it ? we have treated with urea and had to be mixed with other things to get them to eat it , presume its sticky and wont go through a 3 in 1 ,thought about feed a few lambs at grass with it through winter
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
whats Palatability like for sheep with either maxxamon or H+D , does it need to fed as part of ration to get them to eat it ? we have treated with urea and had to be mixed with other things to get them to eat it , presume its sticky and wont go through a 3 in 1 ,thought about feed a few lambs at grass with it through winter
When i asked them about it Mole valley reckoned maxxamon was for cattle, rather than sheep.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
whats Palatability like for sheep with either maxxamon or H+D , does it need to fed as part of ration to get them to eat it ? we have treated with urea and had to be mixed with other things to get them to eat it , presume its sticky and wont go through a 3 in 1 ,thought about feed a few lambs at grass with it through winter

It’s not sticky at all, as you’re not adding liquid. It runs as well as 16-18% Barley would ime. Palatability seems OK, it doesn’t take any longer to get sheep onto it as it does to get them onto straight Barley.

I housed some sheep to finish last Autumn, and the only big feeder I have is a 3-in-1. I started them on a mix of whole Barley and lamb creep pellets, with it shut down quite tight, alongside ad-lib haylage. Started taking it slowly, then I gradually opened it up. Intakes increased, then I lost several and knocked a bunch more for six.:(

After good experience of using it in 2012, I order some H&Dry and treated some barley off the heap. Once it had done 10 days, I filled the 3-in-1, mixed off with the remaining pellets for a day or two. Once on just Alkagrain, intakes increased by a good 30% over the mix, where the creep pellets were obviously slowing it down, lamb performance took off and there were no more losses. Later groups came straight in and onto ad-lib Alkagrain, with no ill effect.

I made a mental note to never again try ad-libbing lambs on any cereal mix that didn’t involve Alkagrain. Very different to trying to treat your own in the cheap by mixing urea pellets in.
 

andybk

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
It’s not sticky at all, as you’re not adding liquid. It runs as well as 16-18% Barley would ime. Palatability seems OK, it doesn’t take any longer to get sheep onto it as it does to get them onto straight Barley.

I housed some sheep to finish last Autumn, and the only big feeder I have is a 3-in-1. I started them on a mix of whole Barley and lamb creep pellets, with it shut down quite tight, alongside ad-lib haylage. Started taking it slowly, then I gradually opened it up. Intakes increased, then I lost several and knocked a bunch more for six.:(

After good experience of using it in 2012, I order some H&Dry and treated some barley off the heap. Once it had done 10 days, I filled the 3-in-1, mixed off with the remaining pellets for a day or two. Once on just Alkagrain, intakes increased by a good 30% over the mix, where the creep pellets were obviously slowing it down, lamb performance took off and there were no more losses. Later groups came straight in and onto ad-lib Alkagrain, with no ill effect.

I made a mental note to never again try ad-libbing lambs on any cereal mix that didn’t involve Alkagrain. Very different to trying to treat your own in the cheap by mixing urea pellets in.
thanks , i have a lot of zwartbles x char lambs born may im going to store till christmas and push them on after , (let dust settle after oct ) . thought it might be a good excercise to have a go with alkagrain instead of creep pellets , only problem is grain will prob be nearer 14% , will ring MVF tomorrow see if they stock it . how much a bag is it ?
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
thanks , i have a lot of zwartbles x char lambs born may im going to store till christmas and push them on after , (let dust settle after oct ) . thought it might be a good excercise to have a go with alkagrain instead of creep pellets , only problem is grain will prob be nearer 14% , will ring MVF tomorrow see if they stock it . how much a bag is it ?

Now there’s the problem. The FiveF stuff is sold in 25kg bags, but by the pallet of 1200kg (iirc), so enough to treat 30t. The only way of getting a smaller quantity was by buying 1t in a tote bag.

I had a pallet last year, with a view to it keeping....
 

Bury the Trash

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Mixed Farmer
thanks , i have a lot of zwartbles x char lambs born may im going to store till christmas and push them on after , (let dust settle after oct ) . thought it might be a good excercise to have a go with alkagrain instead of creep pellets , only problem is grain will prob be nearer 14% , will ring MVF tomorrow see if they stock it . how much a bag is it ?
Ive got a few bags spare pm if youre inerested.

As long as you mix well water can be added to dry grain.
 

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