Meat: a threat to our planet.

[bitwrx]

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Sounds like they need someone to invite them on-farm and explain how this cows-make-soil thing works.

 

[AGN76]

I've just sent him a strongly worded email expressing my disgust in him and his employer.
Don't suppose he'll read it but it made me feel better

Pansy was not what I wrote! C nut is what I wrote!

 

[renewablejohn]

Has anyone tweeted that pansy Vine?

Sent an email yesterday pointing out the rediculous Packham con of paying the woodland trust 1.50 per tree on 100k trees which should cost far less than 50p a tree.Then pointed out 100k trees was a rediculous number when in the next 5 years we will lose 90 million Ash trees through Ash dieback.
No response but then I did not really expect one.

 

[Still Farming]

Packham in papers today with his poodles that saved him from suicide?

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Packham in papers today with his poodles that saved him from suicide?

Stupid poodles

 

[bitwrx]

Stupid poodles

Probably meant as a joke, but doesn't come across well in writing I'm afraid.

 

[Ted M]

He was also bashing on about it this morning on his channel 5 programme but in a more subtle way by letting his co-presenter who is much younger report the vegan anti meat stance by referring to the BBC documentary programme earlier in the week. Final comment by the co-presenter was that she was veggie before the BBC documentary but now totally anti-meat.
Case of a brain washed BBC presenter now able to contaminate other channels in this case channel 5.

I was considering "liking" the radio 2 FB page and then literally bombarding Vine with all facts, figures and alternative science I have saved for such occasions. Probably end up getting blocked.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Hope you're taking loads and loads and loads of photos C ?

Yes. A bit crappy on my phone. No pictures could ever do Patagonia justice, it is stunning.

 

[Henarar]

Probably meant as a joke, but doesn't come across well in writing I'm afraid.

I don't agree with what @Northeastfarmer put but how many farmers will these know it all, ill informed, idiots like packham end up putting out of business or worse with their lies and half truths, their are plenty of farmers that wouldn't take much pushing I would think, we don't interfere with his business, the likes of him and plenty more of these jumped up so called famous prats want to learn to shut their fecking mouths till they can get their facts right

 

[bitwrx]

I don't agree with what @Northeastfarmer put but how many farmers will these know it all, ill informed, idiots like packham end up putting out of business or worse with their lies and half truths, their are plenty of farmers that wouldn't take much pushing I would think, we don't interfere with his business, the likes of him and plenty more of these jumped up so called famous prats want to learn to shut their fecking mouths till they can get their facts right

That may well be true. But I still wouldn't wish for his family and friends to deal with the after-effects of suicide. Or the friends and family of anyone else for that matter. Untimely deaths are most difficult to deal with. That's all.

 

[John Slejpner]

I don’t understand how the Greens can say that they want to encourage sustainable organic mixed farming, yet introduce a meat and dairy tax?

Because they can choose the lightweight option of following the zeitgeist of their target audience, in the full knowledge that, in the short-term anyway, nothing they say will actually be held to account.

 

[Muddyroads]

Because they can choose the lightweight option of following the zeitgeist of their target audience, in the full knowledge that, in the short-term anyway, nothing they say will actually be held to account.

This is true, but they can still influence others gullible enough not to think for themselves.

 

[betweenthelines]

I had a look at the "fact checker" section of the BBC website today as I was surprised/appalled by the general lack of knowledge of the politicians taking part in yesterday's C4 Environment Election debate-the speaker for Plaid Cymru being the only one to point out that grassland was a good carbon sequester.

The "fact checker" quoted the recent UN report that said a balanced diet was better for the environment (the extract being in quotation marks) but then the article went on to define what was considered to be a "balanced" diet-less meat & dairy more veg. Now, at a quick read it came across that the definition of a balanced diet was from the UN report, whereas it was just additional text added by the article writer-a prime case of opinion masquerading as fact! And the BBC slate political parties for "doctoring" news clips for their own benefit!

The article on "fact checker" then moved onto which forms of transport are less damaging-using info from aircraft manufacturers to demonstrate the carbon emissions of air travel, rail companies for rail travel, shipping lines for sea travel etc etc. Rather like asking the Pope to give an unbiased appraisal of Christianity! Perhaps the Beeb will soon announce Ken Clarke's appointment as chief political correspondent.

It would be funny if it were not for the fact that thousands of people will look at this site and believe what it says because unless you read it carefully, you wont see where the facts end and the opinions take over-or even where the information comes from.

 

[Henarar]

That may well be true. But I still wouldn't wish for his family and friends to deal with the after-effects of suicide. Or the friends and family of anyone else for that matter. Untimely deaths are most difficult to deal with. That's all.

Quite which is why I said I don't agree with NEF, what I was saying is that these people don't realise or don't care about the pressure they can put on already hard pressed farmers, at the end of the day they are paid well have plenty of money they don't have to worry they will be on to the next thing when they have successful fecked our businesses up and they won't look back.
Getting fed up with the verious idiots on the telly and other places having a fecking go and if they were stood in front of me telling up such 1t they may well learn some Somerset ish words they didn't bloody well know before

 

[Still Farming]

Jamie Oliver and guests on about veganism on Graham Norton's show now?

 

[Top Tip.]

yes and only seen by farmers, when will the nfu tell the country as a whole not just us, we dont need telling, tell the public about british farm standards

Well I’ve shared it on face ache and daughters have on theirs so that will have got it away from the usual demographic.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Jamie Oliver and guests on about veganism on Graham Norton's show now?

No.
On BBC 4 'country queens '

 

[Bury the Trash]

Not that sort of queens

..Tammy Wynette et al

 

[Ted M]

I feel another complaint coming on.
The BBC complaint system has crashed under the sheer number regarding the programme at the top of this thread and they are going to issue a standard reply to people rather than an individual response.
This is blatant manipulation of the facts as betweenthelines has demonstrated above.
With no sound science to support the sh!t they are constantly ramming down peoples throats at every opportunity this is basically persecution of a minority.
Surely somehow some form of legal challenge could be brought against them?

 

[Bury the Trash]

Taped it and started watching but got bored so it will be deleted toot sweet...