Meat the Family. Another Ch4 meat bashing program

PSQ

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Arable Farmer
On now - Veganville on BBC1, female ‘vegan’ activist on camera yammering away, while driving an Evoke with leather seats, and wearing leather trousers. Every time they go in front of a camera they can’t help but score an own goal.
It must be the malnutrition clouding their judgement.
 

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
From NFU SCOTLAND Facebook feed


In light of the dreadful decision by Channel 4 News to press ahead with the broadcast of a programme entitled "How to steal Pigs and influence people" this evening, UK Unions have issued the following:

A joint statement from NFU Scotland, NFU, NFU Cymru and the Ulster Farmers Union said: “We are deeply concerned that Channel 4 is broadcasting this documentary, despite being contacted beforehand by those involved in the farming industry who know only too well the very real impact that this kind of criminal behaviour has on farmers, their families, their business and the health and welfare of their animals.

“We believe that the title and trailers for ‘How to Steal Pigs and Influence People’, with promotional wording talking about ‘daring farmyard heists,’ shows that the programme makers regard this illegal activity as trivial and humorous. Channel 4 has said the programme will not glamorise or condone illegal activity. We are interested to know how this statement is compatible with its own admission that the documentary will feature illegal activity by activists. We want to understand what efforts the broadcaster has gone to to pass information on to the police regarding any criminal behaviour it has either filmed or featured in the programme.

“Farms are not only businesses, they are also homes for families. It is quite astonishing that Channel 4 have chosen to commission and broadcast this programme given the dreadful impact that these attacks have on the health and wellbeing of those farmers targeted. We do not understand why farming families are being seen as fair game by the broadcaster and treated differently from other British citizens who all have the right to be protected from criminal behaviour and not to see those criminals given airtime and profile.

“We fully support the actions of the NPA who are taking legal advice regarding this programme.”

The Unions also welcomed the decision at the end of last week by Mitsubishi Motors in the UK to withdraw its support for the Channel 4 programme
 

JCfarmer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
On now - Veganville on BBC1, female ‘vegan’ activist on camera yammering away, while driving an Evoke with leather seats, and wearing leather trousers. Every time they go in front of a camera they can’t help but score an own goal.
It must be the malnutrition clouding their judgement.
I noticed the leather seats and was just about to say the same. You couldn't make it up.
 

Scribus

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Location
Central Atlantic
Time to don the tin hat and suggest that the programme did more good than harm for livestock producers.

I'm not the only one to suggest it turned out to be a vaguely amusing study of disaffected youth rather than a serious attempt at promoting veganism by allowing an open platform for the vegan movement. I'd wager that there are many marketing bods in various food companies who, having watched it, are feeling rather embarrassed at having jumped on such a insubstantial bandwagon. It may turn out to be the beginning of the end for all this nonsense. Time will tell.
 

Bobthebuilder

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
northumberland
On now - Veganville on BBC1, female ‘vegan’ activist on camera yammering away, while driving an Evoke with leather seats, and wearing leather trousers. Every time they go in front of a camera they can’t help but score an own goal.
It must be the malnutrition clouding their judgement.

Same as the ex model in other program with 2 top of the range Range Rovers on her drive, I bet they had leather interiors [emoji849]
 

Scribus

Member
Location
Central Atlantic
From NFU SCOTLAND Facebook feed


In light of the dreadful decision by Channel 4 News to press ahead with the broadcast of a programme entitled "How to steal Pigs and influence people" this evening, UK Unions have issued the following:

A joint statement from NFU Scotland, NFU, NFU Cymru and the Ulster Farmers Union said: “We are deeply concerned that Channel 4 is broadcasting this documentary, despite being contacted beforehand by those involved in the farming industry who know only too well the very real impact that this kind of criminal behaviour has on farmers, their families, their business and the health and welfare of their animals.

“We believe that the title and trailers for ‘How to Steal Pigs and Influence People’, with promotional wording talking about ‘daring farmyard heists,’ shows that the programme makers regard this illegal activity as trivial and humorous. Channel 4 has said the programme will not glamorise or condone illegal activity. We are interested to know how this statement is compatible with its own admission that the documentary will feature illegal activity by activists. We want to understand what efforts the broadcaster has gone to to pass information on to the police regarding any criminal behaviour it has either filmed or featured in the programme.

“Farms are not only businesses, they are also homes for families. It is quite astonishing that Channel 4 have chosen to commission and broadcast this programme given the dreadful impact that these attacks have on the health and wellbeing of those farmers targeted. We do not understand why farming families are being seen as fair game by the broadcaster and treated differently from other British citizens who all have the right to be protected from criminal behaviour and not to see those criminals given airtime and profile.

“We fully support the actions of the NPA who are taking legal advice regarding this programme.”

The Unions also welcomed the decision at the end of last week by Mitsubishi Motors in the UK to withdraw its support for the Channel 4 programme
If they can't recognise blatant PR hype for what it is then they are even more useless than many would maintain.
 

icanshootwell

Member
Location
Ross-on-wye
Time to don the tin hat and suggest that the programme did more good than harm for livestock producers.

I'm not the only one to suggest it turned out to be a vaguely amusing study of disaffected youth rather than a serious attempt at promoting veganism by allowing an open platform for the vegan movement. I'd wager that there are many marketing bods in various food companies who, having watched it, are feeling rather embarrassed at having jumped on such a insubstantial bandwagon. It may turn out to be the beginning of the end for all this nonsense. Time will tell.
I kind of agree with you, but saying that, if a load of young gits turned up here and broke into sheds etc, necessary force will have to be applied, have you ever seen the film gangs of new york.(there will be blood) I presume the police will be ok with farmers defending there property, I will email c4 about this proposed new series where vegans clash with countryside folk. Anybody have heading title?
 

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Time to don the tin hat and suggest that the programme did more good than harm for livestock producers.

I'm not the only one to suggest it turned out to be a vaguely amusing study of disaffected youth rather than a serious attempt at promoting veganism by allowing an open platform for the vegan movement. I'd wager that there are many marketing bods in various food companies who, having watched it, are feeling rather embarrassed at having jumped on such a insubstantial bandwagon. It may turn out to be the beginning of the end for all this nonsense. Time will tell.
No tin hat needed over here.

I thought it did , and could have done more, show how irresponsible and dangerous taking livestock from farms is.
Twitter was all about how stupid they were, how is was about the 10k per month he wanted to make and how he let the pig die. Gas guzzling land rovers and rangerovers, what is she going to do with those eggs, leather seats,to all those vegan influencers it was about money not the animals.

Did it do more harm than good, I personally don't think so.
 

Raider112

Member
If this programme goes anywhere near to showing both sides we might be praising it afterwards for making those nutters look like the villains they are.
Looks like I may have been right, they should be ashamed of themselves and if they aren't they are probably being told often enough.
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Times TV critic nailed this

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bitwrx

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@JP1, @Suffolk Serf

22h later, what's your considered opinion on the prog, as proper industry professionals? (The pig industry that is, not the self-promoting-social-media-bellend industry.)

Is it really going to encourage farm break-ins, intimidation of farmers, and livestock thefts?
 
@JP1, @Suffolk Serf

22h later, what's your considered opinion on the prog, as proper industry professionals? (The pig industry that is, not the self-promoting-social-media-bellend industry.)

Is it really going to encourage farm break-ins, intimidation of farmers, and livestock thefts?

It was just totally bizarre.
It really didn't show the vegan activists in a good light at all, thankfully, showing them to be attention grabbing media tarts, incompetent to be in charge of a goldfish.
There were moments of comedy gold- Sylvia Hook shouting to the nutters who were occupying her pig farm live streaming a supposedly dying piglet "it's only asleep you idiots!"
And those extreme carnivores, ex vegans- I can't quite see why they were included- but the sight of them eating the raw deer innards with blood all over their faces, I found hilariously odd.
There is an honest review in the Times and on the NPA website an excellent summing up by the tenacious Lizzie Wilson.
Might it be premature to think that it might just be some sort of turning point?
 

bitwrx

Member
It was just totally bizarre.
It really didn't show the vegan activists in a good light at all, thankfully, showing them to be attention grabbing media tarts, incompetent to be in charge of a goldfish.
There were moments of comedy gold- Sylvia Hook shouting to the nutters who were occupying her pig farm live streaming a supposedly dying piglet "it's only asleep you idiots!"
And those extreme carnivores, ex vegans- I can't quite see why they were included- but the sight of them eating the raw deer innards with blood all over their faces, I found hilariously odd.
There is an honest review in the Times and on the NPA website an excellent summing up by the tenacious Lizzie Wilson.
Might it be premature to think that it might just be some sort of turning point?
Thanks. Sounds cringeworthy and laughable. Fairly typical for TV nowadays, I guess.

Shame I missed it; TV is still sitting on the side, unused since I moved in here in July.
 

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