- Location
- south norfolk
Will be lots of huge farms unable to speed the ripening of crops,also unable to dessicate the rape.will swathers make a return? And how will the direct drilling boys manage
Nick...
Nick...
MEP vote on glyphosate
- Thread starter An Gof
- Start date
- Location
- West Suffolk
There must be plans in place to farm without it?
Maybe they are used to not using it much already?
Maybe they are used to not using it much already?
- Location
- East Sussex
I sometimes wonder if the glyphosate ban is something brought about by the shelved TTIP? Did Europe encourage a ban to make it a bargaining point in the TTIP and it got away from them?
SilliamWhale
Member
Apparently we'll be doing organic no till that York Bayer knows about but won't tell us. Personally I'll probably rent out for grass/spuds/chicken farmer and claim as many environmental grants as possible - might well be better off. Its not my problem if they ban glyphosate as much as all that. Just change things about
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
- Location
- Mid Northants
I cant see a lot more rape swathing being done most of the machines are over 10 years old , and aren't cheap to run , a new one costs if you can get one 150k , Reglone will be used ,
The no-till boys will suffer as the whole principal is based around chemical
- Location
- south norfolk
Cant see people buying new swathers either.they only have a tiny working window aswell
Nick...
Nick...
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
After leaving college many moons ago worked for a farm business with interests in England and Scotland. All rape was swathed and the machine was moved north over the July / August period. As rape matures over a six week period from South coast to Aberdeenshire then it is possibly the one machine that is well suited to being transferred to maximise area covered to thus reduce costs. Just my comment.
Mr Charisma
Member
- Location
- stratford on Avon
Have distant memories of you swathing rape at Pytchley a few years back ,,,,, do you still swath
- Location
- Berkshire
Would have thought a front linkage swathed with side discharge would be a cost effective solution nowadays ???
I'll just be patient and direct cut
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Would have thought a front linkage swathed with side discharge would be a cost effective solution nowadays ???
I'll just be patient and direct cut
Aah patience - cheapest and probably the best option.
ollie989898
Member
A modern swather will not be hugely costly to run, and of course you could cut several farms worth of stuff as the workrate on these things is impressive.
- Location
- Berkshire
And the highest yields...
Swathing is just a throwback to 6ft tall varieties and old technology combine headers, it’s risky in wet summers with rotting swaths.
Semi dwarf breeding will pick up again ??
Mr Charisma
Member
- Location
- stratford on Avon
Hmmmm , we've direct cut for a few years ,,,,, problem was trying to cut rape at the same time as wheat ,,,, and certainly didn't suit our hybrid cropsWould have thought a front linkage swathed with side discharge would be a cost effective solution nowadays ???
I'll just be patient and direct cut
- Location
- Somerset UK
If they don't it will be time to man the barricades, block the ports, copy the french, do you think the police will let us like they seem to do over there?
Derky
Member
- Location
- Bucks/oxon
We still run a swather. Still the best solution to kill osr. Roundup seems to take an age these days, however we seem to swath more novel crops these days.
- Location
- Berkshire
Used to work for someone who always direct cut, we did this for 9 years ok.
It was frustrating to see the neighbours on a week before us, but we never had any clashes with wheat in that time, he would avoid later varieties though.
A neighbour ran a swather for years and we did try a field with it once, this was 10 years ago, just before he sold it as he was carrying out less contracting due to it being so expensive compared to spraying, he said at the time that swathing wasn’t as effective as it used to be as the varieties were too short and there wasn’t a long enough stubble to lay the swaths on.
Varieties like Castile and Troy wouldn’t be too hard to direct cut with a vario header, the time glypho would be missed is when a marginal crop is kept after a 2012 type year and an uneven and weedy crop is the result.
I direct cut 2 out of 3 fields of Imperial this year, the cutting date and mc were the same as the sprayed field, the difference was the Unsprayed had green straw which took more chopping
Mr Charisma
Member
- Location
- stratford on Avon
I think a lot depends on your varieties and how you grow them , maybe I will have to change , been growing hybrids on low seed rates which have had thick stalks ,.... Our combine has never liked some of these crops even when sprayed of with glypho ,,,,, so perhaps higher seed rate will help produce thinner stalks , had a big crop of Compass one year that was cut on 22nd of August and it was still green up into the canopy , took me I should think 4 hrs to grunt 12 acres thru it
Gordon Greenlaw
New Member
Are you sure that Reglone ie diquat will be around for much longer?
http://www.cpm-magazine.co.uk/2017/07/19/potato-desiccation-burning-question-diquat/
yellow belly
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- Location
- south west lincolnshire
german elections will force the commission to make a descision
if glyphosate is banned the chemical usage will increase
on my travels to day seen a lot of ploughing that will need glyphosate to control the weeds
all the ploughing I see on heavy land leaves the furrows too open to control weeds
plough design will have to go back to the 1950s setups
if glyphosate is banned the chemical usage will increase
on my travels to day seen a lot of ploughing that will need glyphosate to control the weeds
all the ploughing I see on heavy land leaves the furrows too open to control weeds
plough design will have to go back to the 1950s setups