Merkel... time to speak

[bobk]

Looks like she has a majority coalition , so let's hear it Angela . you've been very quiet.

 

[turbo]

Lame duck now

 

[caveman]

She's got a good excuse to roll back her welcome allcomers policy now.
Incidentally.
Does Germany do anything to help solve that particular problem at source?

 

[bobk]

She's got a good excuse to roll back her welcome allcomers policy now.
Incidentally.
Does Germany do anything to help solve that particular problem at source?

Already done that .

 

[turbo]

At least the proper negotiations can start now

 

[bobk]

At least the proper negotiations can start now

I think so , let's speak to the organ grinder not the .........

 

[turbo]

How long do you think she's got before resigning after all she only got 32% of the vote were as tm got 42% and all you hear is she must go

 

[caveman]

How long do you think she's got before resigning after all she only got 32% of the vote were as tm got 42% and all you hear is she must go

She'll be fine.
She'll just promise a billion or two here and there, do a few deals and support a few policies that some others won't like and accuse her of being two faced, in order to build a coalition.

 

[RobFZS]

Soo much for things being all rosy in the EU eh , Nazi's second in France, third in Germany, Not far off behind in Austria, one leading Hungary , Poland etc etc

This can of popcorn they keep kicking down the road is about to spilt open if there is no major reform

The biggest issue i see, is it's mainly the young voting for the likes of the AFD and the 5*M

 

[caveman]

The reason Merkle and Shultz won't enter a full blown coalition is quite obvious.
They've devised a plan whereby they will be in coalition on most everything, but, Shultz and his lot will present and push a much milder version of the AfD policies, thereby giving Merkle a get out of jail free card without shaming her face whilst negating and making the AfD irrelevant.

 

[Danllan]

How long do you think she's got before resigning after all she only got 32% of the vote were as tm got 42% and all you hear is she must go

Ah yes, but, you see... she isn't British, so they won't slag her off.

 

[nivilla1982]

So most likely a Jamaica coalition (CDU/CSU, FDP and the Greens) since the SDP have ruled out grand coalition.

 

[JohnGalway]

This afd crowd, are they related to ukip?

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/25/europe/german-election-result-afd-walkout/index.html

 

[ski]

The bell curve of politics is moving back towards the right in every major western democracy. All that matters now is how fast and how far it will go.

 

[FarmyStu]

What will she promise the Greens to get them in her coalition? Glyphosphate bans and lots of other anti-science nonsense no doubt......

 

[Jackov Altraids]

This afd crowd, are they related to ukip?

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/25/europe/german-election-result-afd-walkout/index.html

I have no idea but the circumstances they find themselves in are similar.
As alluded to many times, if you don't like your current relationship with the EU, there is little choice for a vote to reflect this without voting far-right.
There will be many more who would hold this view who would not vote this way. We were lucky to have had UKIP to differentiate between the two although its opponents were desperate to portray them as the same thing.
The shared circumstance is when any 'outside' party becomes successful. It lacks the experience and then suffers power struggles to put the meat on the bones of ideas that up until that point, only needed to be an idea.
The rise of the far right vote is a worry, but not as worrying as the reaction, in almost every case, by those in power. In Germany today they said they would be all joining together to snuff them [afd] out. They need to identify and address the issue pushing people to vote this way.

 

[turbo]

What will she promise the Greens to get them in her coalition? Glyphosphate bans and lots of other anti-science nonsense no doubt......

Almost certainly,what a lame duck she has turned out to be

 

[nivilla1982]

Mrs Merkel lost a lot of ground in the German election, plunging from 41.5 % to 33% . She lost around 65 seats. In her place the anti Euro AFD soared to 13% to give it 94 seats, where it had none before. This is a contrast to the UK Conservatives rising from 36% to 42 % for their share of the vote in the last election.
Mrs Merkel may be able to soldier on at the head of a difficult coalition, but she has lost substantial authority for her EU policies as a result of this voting collapse. If she and the potential alternative left of centre coalition both refuse to include the AFD one of them would have to govern as a minority. Only a further CDU/SDP coalition can get her to a majority. This Grand coalition between the two main rivals is not easy, especially now both parties see how damaging it is for them electorally.So far indeed the SPD have said no deal. Germany has voted itself into weak and unstable government. The BBC calls this a Merkel win!
This quote from J Redwood MP seems apt.

 

[JohnGalway]

I have no idea but the circumstances they find themselves in are similar.
As alluded to many times, if you don't like your current relationship with the EU, there is little choice for a vote to reflect this without voting far-right.
There will be many more who would hold this view who would not vote this way. We were lucky to have had UKIP to differentiate between the two although its opponents were desperate to portray them as the same thing.
The shared circumstance is when any 'outside' party becomes successful. It lacks the experience and then suffers power struggles to put the meat on the bones of ideas that up until that point, only needed to be an idea.
The rise of the far right vote is a worry, but not as worrying as the reaction, in almost every case, by those in power. In Germany today they said they would be all joining together to snuff them [afd] out. They need to identify and address the issue pushing people to vote this way.

In Germany, what they actually said, or rather what Merkel said was she'd listen to afd voters and try to win them back. So I'm not quite sure where you're getting your information from.

I like being part of the EU as it sometimes provides an avenue to correct my own Government when it is working against my interests. Being outside of the EU I would have no such avenue.

 

[JohnGalway]

If she and the potential alternative left of centre coalition both refuse to include the AFD one of them would have to govern as a minority. Only a further CDU/SDP coalition can get her to a majority.

I believe the "Jamaican coalition" as well as the outgoing coalition (which has been rules out) would both have numerical majorities, both excluding afd. A minority Govt would be a third but less desirable option.