Methane

You may be right, but given 30% of grown food is not used and we have a fairly high obesity crisis in the developed world, there could be a reasonable drop in production without any real danger.

This sounds ok in theory. But in practice it will mean massive price rises very quickly. Mainly obesity is too much bready crap!
 

delilah

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What a fudgin chump.
Given a brief, and scampers off to find the trendiest nonsense he can, accepting the initial bollix. Masks on cows....doesn't he stop and listen to what he's saying?

There's so much I want to say, mostly that I'm continually hurt that the lies about methane keep circulating, blaming my dear gentle coos who're quietly sat away on their hill hurting no-one.
Meanwhile, we can all keep flying on holidays because jet planes will be 'carbon neutral'.

Yes, what a fudgin chump

For sure, chump for believing it. However, to be fair to Mr Dimbleby he can't be expert in all things, hence he had his two advisory panels. They will have told him that methane from cows is destroying the planet. So who was advising him ? Yup, us.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
This sounds ok in theory. But in practice it will mean massive price rises very quickly. Mainly obesity is too much bready crap!
Farmers get such a ridiculously small share of a product's end value, I don't think it would make for massive price rises.
Eg in that loaf of bread, the grain is worth how many p? I've read it on here somewhere and it isn't a lot..

people will shed a lot of tears before their rubbish bins go hungry
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Farmers get such a ridiculously small share of a product's end value, I don't think it would make for massive price rises.
Eg in that loaf of bread, the grain is worth how many p? I've read it on here somewhere and it isn't a lot..

people will shed a lot of tears before their rubbish bins go hungry
yep but any rise in the price of grain is an immediate excuse for a rise in the price of bread, its like fish and chip shops love it when there is a very high spud price year, prices go up, never to come down again
 

LTH

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Livestock Farmer
Cattle don’t spontaneously produce methane, just like an engine doesn’t just produce CO2. they break down plant matter which and the carbon stored in the plant is then released via carbon dioxide and methane. Like burning a fuel and the CO2 is released: That carbon in the plant was drawn down from the atmosphere, rather than coming from a locked up source in the ground. Why isn’t this obvious that as long as we don’t increase cattle and sheep numbers then they are not adding to the problem.
 

LTH

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Livestock Farmer
A lot of his information came from global averages as well, it pisses you off because it’s blatantly obvious what’s needed.
1. Break up the monopolised supply chain most important Tim Lang has stressed this multiple times.
2. Reduce waste, we could feed 30% more people by doing nothing to agriculture if we wasted less
3. Invest in healthy eating and food poverty, and reducing obesity. It’s frightening how much of NHS spending goes on tackling obesity related illness.
4. Food prices up to a more realistic level this will discourage waste and reduce over consumption. The USA is the only country that spends less on food than the UK does and look as the state of rural America and the health of the population. supply chain measures to distribute shares and instead of paying farmers subs, use the money to ensure the poorest can access decent quality food.
5. Create a secure and sustainable agricultural industry, that provides food, greater biodiversity and money to the economy not just a tree planting Tory play ground.
What’s taken him 2 years could have been implemented in 5 minutes and I’d let keep the huge wage they’ve given him.
 
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LTH

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Livestock Farmer
For sure, chump for believing it. However, to be fair to Mr Dimbleby he can't be expert in all things, hence he had his two advisory panels. They will have told him that methane from cows is destroying the planet. So who was advising him ? Yup, us.
please don’t tell me the NFU advised this rubbish.
 

roscoe erf

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Livestock Farmer
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puppet

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
it's not the once in a decade reunion flights that are the problem.

I often take an internal Uk flight- twice annually mebbe-, leaving very early to fly to the other end of the country for a business meeting.
And that flight is chock full of people doing likewise.
I often gently quiz my fellow travellers, and meet peeps flying 400 miles each way for a day out, or commuting.

Coupla years ago, i took a flight - well, 2 out and 2 back- for weekend herding coos in the alps, for fun.
No-one batted an eyelid.

There's a yawning chasm twixt what society needs to do, and what we think is perfectly normal and acceptable.
My brother-in-law flew to a meeting in Brazil and flew back the next day. He said it needed to be face-to-face :scratchhead: . Starting to wonder if he was Carlos the Jackal.
 

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