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jimmer

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Location
East Devon
That's you helping???

I'm pointing out that those results are not unbelievable or extraordinary.

Last 1100 breedings on my computer say 50% conception. That's including sexed semen usage. I had a dud sexed bull with 0% conception that hurt me.

did you not read my earlier post ??

take a screen shot or photo of the figures and post it here job done ...
 

jimmer

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Location
East Devon
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bovine

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Location
North
When ever you ask @Clay52 to give you evidence to back up his figures he always spouts on about the reasearch he's read. If you've got results then just run through exactly what you're feeding your cows , your calving dates spring/autumn and your fertility figures .your got so much research it should be easy to do

FFS man you are so aggravating , i am trying to help you out a bit by trying to explain how these figures are achievable , the least you can do as at least give some kind of evidence to back up YOUR results :banghead::banghead:

You guys don't seem to understand the scientific method. The published papers have much more weight as they are run with control groups under the same management. I can make up a nice screenshot of some lovely data, but its pretty meaningless.

Whether you want to believe him or not @Clay52 's claims are backed up by quite a lot of published evidence.

Quite happy to debate the cost, practicability, palatability of this but better in another thread.
 

In the pit

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembrokeshire
We've asking to see @Clay52 figures ,we can all find research on google. I have very good conception rates and 6 wks in calf rates ,difference is I don't use any vet drugs to get this. My cows are the right condition score at calving ,this means they calve easily and get up and away quickly. I only serve for 10 wks so I cannot get it wrong , it's to costly
 

Clay52

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Location
Outer Space
Whether it's true or not or works or not, it's not a sustainable approach to breeding in this country. We are under constant attact from groups saying milk is full of hormones, chemicals and antibiotics and we need to be able to say that it's not true and push milk as a natural heathy drink.

That's not the debate, people said the figures are not achievable when they clearly are. I've said before I'm planning on doing away with sync and put in plans to do so. Currently getting 60% conception on natural heats.
 

Clay52

Member
Location
Outer Space
Now let's wait for @Clay52 figures and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait
I've taken a pic of the screen but it's much more fun holding out and seeing how entitled an opinion you have of yourself.

You seem to think if I don't prove it to you ( computer figures could be adjusted pretty quick anyway) that it effects my business or results in someway.
 
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That's not the debate, people said the figures are not achievable when they clearly are. I've said before I'm planning on doing away with sync and put in plans to do so. Currently getting 60% conception on natural heats.

What does it cost you in drugs this sync programme?

Not only do I not think syncing whole herds is unacceptable to the general public but if you're also still getting good standing heats without this and 60% conception rates then why do you bother? I just can't believe it's economically viable or worth it from a labour point of view if you're doing 5 injections.
 

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