MF 7719 experiences

[Hampton]

Iam just saying the new 7S-190 is only available with DVT same as the previous 7719S its the same tractor underneath.
Find me any Europe Countries brochure with the 7719S (Tier5) in D6 then i'll agree otherwise it was never made
Yes you could buy a pre S model 7719 tractor in D6 but that was the larger chassis size tractor
Not the shorter wheelbase tier5 model these are.
I cant mind the GIMA trans (D6) backends code off hand but the larger specced one that was in all larger frame masseys from 6485 up right thru to the last of the 7720-7726
was physically impossible to fit into the shorter wheelbased tier5 7719S

You are correct. Everything above a 7S 180 is only available in vario

 

[Speedstar]

You've bo

You've bought a 10yr old tractor and tell me to keep up? I bought a new 7480 in 2006 (well documented on here) and several more VT's in the following years while you were still breaking powershifts! It's taken you a while to catch on, but well done, welcome to the club
You must be really hard on kit to knacker a front diff on those jobs

A lot of weight on the front end pushing in reverse is what does the soft mf front diffs , yes bought second hand as it was a cheap diet feeder tractor with a dyna vt box & it fits in the cattle shed were a 720 fendt will not go in or it would have been another fendt to join the fleet , never said i would never have a dyna vt it is the dyna 6 i will never own again

 

[FrasseSweden]

It's a good tractor and I am sure you gone like it. But if i read this forum, i must be one of the dumbest here. I have right now 7 MF and if i read all comment on here they brake down all the time. But i buy theme anyway, maybe i the stupidest person in the world, our maybe they not brake down more then other brand..!

 

[Spud]

A lot of weight on the front end pushing in reverse is what does the soft mf front diffs , yes bought second hand as it was a cheap diet feeder tractor with a dyna vt box & it fits in the cattle shed were a 720 fendt will not go in or it would have been another fendt to join the fleet , never said i would never have a dyna vt it is the dyna 6 i will never own again

Put less weight on then!

 

[Speedstar]

Put less weight on then!

You need to be able to drive them on the road , compactor is 4500kg , so 500kg on the front is no good

 

[Spud]

You need to be able to drive them on the road , compactor is 45000kg , so 500kg on the front is no good

It does well to lift 45tons!!

 

[Lofty1984]

A lot of weight on the front end pushing in reverse is what does the soft mf front diffs , yes bought second hand as it was a cheap diet feeder tractor with a dyna vt box & it fits in the cattle shed were a 720 fendt will not go in or it would have been another fendt to join the fleet , never said i would never have a dyna vt it is the dyna 6 i will never own again

Just like to say this again still yet to feck a front diff on any of ours put 8k on my old 7718 hell of allot of that buckraking now she’s been semi retired and I’ve got a 7720

 

[Hampton]

It's a good tractor and I am sure you gone like it. But if i read this forum, i must be one of the dumbest here. I have right now 7 MF and if i read all comment on here they brake down all the time. But i buy theme anyway, maybe i the stupidest person in the world, our maybe they not brake down more then other brand..!

We’ve had masseys my whole life (I’m 42) hardly had any trouble at all.
7718 - electrical fault on spool block caused all spools to trip out. Fixed under warranty.
6480 - zero issues after 5000hours.
6290 - new clutch
6280 no issues on 2 tractors
3085 no issues
3095 no issues
390 dad tried to increase the power by upping the fuel and blew the engine up.
Then countless other 698s, 699s and 690s and 290s before my time.

we aren’t contractors, but for a decent sized mixed arable farm, we have had very little issues
Never given us a reason to change

 

[FrasseSweden]

We’ve had masseys my whole life (I’m 42) hardly had any trouble at all.
7718 - electrical fault on spool block caused all spools to trip out. Fixed under warranty.
6480 - zero issues after 5000hours.
6290 - new clutch
6280 no issues on 2 tractors
3085 no issues
3095 no issues
390 dad tried to increase the power by upping the fuel and blew the engine up.

we aren’t contractors, but for a decent sized mixed arable farm, we have had very little issues

It's right what i mean, every brand have bad and good tractor. We have had MF since 1949 and I have the first in the sheed a MF TE-A 20 that i drive every christmas. I can not remember every MF how been on the farm. All have not been good, but that what you have a dealer to sort out. I not a contractor i am a dairy farmer, but i have 500 hectare of silage and 300 hectare of whole crop per year for my own cows to handle. Right now the fleet are :
3090 (1987)
5445 (2009)
7718 (2016)
6715S (2018)
7726S (2019)
6718S (2020)
8S.225 (2021)

 

[Finn farmer]

We've had

135 (still have it, needs new paint, engine rebuilt in 2014)

365 (burned twice, traded it for 5445)

390T (engine seized once, clutch went twice, sold it and bought 5610)

5445 (piece of junk with clutch solenoid problems that weren't that known then, went in for 6630 Deere)

5610 (5000 hours of troublefree working, traded it for Maxxum 135 Cvx, probably best value for money we've ever had)

No Masseys anymore. F*cking expensive to buy.

 

[Hampton]

I also have a 2008 Claas Arian 630, which is a cracking tractor but has had a turbo overhaul and bearings etc changed on back wheels.

 

[Spud]

Every now & then we take the Massey blinkers off & try something else. Indeed, over the years we've owned & run Ford, NH & Case IH and demoed NH, Case, Fendt, Renault and John Deere.

Back in 2014 (iirc) we were looking to replace a troublesome MF 6490, and had a few demos. Staff reaction went as follows:

NH T7050 AC "If you buy that pile of shite you'll have to drive it yourself"
John Deere (can't remember the model, but it was a direct drive not an AP) "How is that bloody thing the market leader? No thanks"
Case Puma 160 CVX "Its alright, better than I expected, but too noisy and that joystick is crap. I wouldn't want to sit in it all day"
Fendt 720 - "Its alright, but you have to think too hard, nothing is simple or obvious - bet its dear too"

So whats the verdict then lads, what do we get? (Unanimously) "Can we just have another 7620 VT Massey, we like the one we got last year"
OTTOMH the Case was £8k dearer than the MF, the Fendt another £20k on that. We bought another 7620vt.

That 7620 is still with us, now nearly done 8000hrs (March 2015 tractor) Its mate was 63 plate, was moved on last summer for a s/h 7720 VT which to be fair has had more niggles.

Stand out reliability here has to be the 7480 of old, and my 7618 that replaced it. At 5200hrs its had an alternator, pair of batteries, and this week, an exhaust temperature sensor. Thats it. It arrived Feb 2018 at 3yo with 1500hrs on. The 7720 above came from the same home.

We've had, over the last 50yrs, in order of purchase:
2x135 (one still here, the other fired)
550 (monumentally awful, sold for a Ford 4600 in 1978)
Ford 4600 (Horrible thing)
Ford5600 (excellent, still here)
(Farm size trebled at this point)
MF399 2wd Horrible cab, 3 stick box, could pull a house down, faultless. Traded for a new 3085
Case IH 956XL TB turbo - noisy but powerful. Ate its own gearbox and got traded for a new Maxxum. No ground clearance.
MF3085 - reliable and a step up at the time (Dynashift & air con)
Maxxum 5130 Turbo - slow & noisy, neanderthal synchro spec. Great loader tractor. Ate its own crown wheel & pinion.
NH 8340 - fast & comfy, plenty ground clearance. Useless gearbox.
MF6170 - useless. No go, horribly unreliable
2x6290 - very good, particularly the ccls one. Masseys saving grace here - we'd demod a JD6610 which had a lovely engine, nice cab, terrible gearbox, 3wd & no space round the spools.
MF3075 - replaced the Maxxum along with a 530/70 JCB - both still here. Brilliant little tractor
(spud area doubled at this point)
MF7480 - game changer. Here longer than most, brilliant. One of only 2 tractors to start on the front line and finish as back up (the other being the Ford5600)
MF6490 Dyna 6 - Big leap in power at the time. transmission made of cheese. Super engine.
MF6180 - came at 12yo with 2000hrs as an extra in 2008. Caught fire leading spuds in 2016. Caused us very little bother bar a fluid flywheel in its first few months
MF7495 - bought s/h when we changed the taty harvester and nearly blew the 7480 up trying to pull it. The one that got away, should never of sold it. Brilliant.
(Workload increased again)
MF8130 - christened the Camel due to its temperamental nature and tendency to spit oil everywhere! Only had it 6 months.
2x MF 7620 VT - both very good, still got the newer one (the only VT we've replaced a gearbox in under warranty)
MF 6480 Came to replace the 6180 mostly communal cart tractor. Very comfy, nice smooth tractor. Likes injectors. (T3 Perkins)
MF7618 VT Replaced the venerable 7480 - very good indeed, just not as comfy a ride as the 7720 or 6480
MF7490 vt - bought with 10,000hrs as an extra tractor, proven to be a good buy. Cheap simple reliable capable.
MF7720 VT - replaced a 7620, mostly because its former owner was retiring and we'd good experience of his tractors previously.
International 454 - toy really, bought for my girls to learn to drive on, but handy to have about the place
Red text = bought new

As for whats next? MF 8s back in spring was nice, though we await a VT. Demo Valtra Direct this summer very underwhelming. Claas Axion demo coming up when we've time. Fendt potentially in the running but as a draft tractor (15 reg 7620 next to change) lack of weight & short wheel base of an otherwise excellent 724 concerns me. 800 Fendt to big & expensive. Could be a late MF 7724/26 VT, Could be a new 8s, but we'll have to see how the numbers look. Claas could suprise us yet.
They're all too blimmin dear!!

 

[FrasseSweden]

Every now & then we take the Massey blinkers off & try something else. Indeed, over the years we've owned & run Ford, NH & Case IH and demoed NH, Case, Fendt, Renault and John Deere.

Back in 2014 (iirc) we were looking to replace a troublesome MF 6490, and had a few demos. Staff reaction went as follows:

NH T7050 AC "If you buy that pile of shite you'll have to drive it yourself"
John Deere (can't remember the model, but it was a direct drive not an AP) "How is that bloody thing the market leader? No thanks"
Case Puma 160 CVX "Its alright, better than I expected, but too noisy and that joystick is crap. I wouldn't want to sit in it all day"
Fendt 720 - "Its alright, but you have to think too hard, nothing is simple or obvious - bet its dear too"

So whats the verdict then lads, what do we get? (Unanimously) "Can we just have another 7620 VT Massey, we like the one we got last year"
OTTOMH the Case was £8k dearer than the MF, the Fendt another £20k on that. We bought another 7620vt.

That 7620 is still with us, now nearly done 8000hrs (March 2015 tractor) Its mate was 63 plate, was moved on last summer for a s/h 7720 VT which to be fair has had more niggles.

Stand out reliability here has to be the 7480 of old, and my 7618 that replaced it. At 5200hrs its had an alternator, pair of batteries, and this week, an exhaust temperature sensor. Thats it. It arrived Feb 2018 at 3yo with 1500hrs on. The 7720 above came from the same home.

We've had, over the last 50yrs, in order of purchase:
2x135 (one still here, the other fired)
550 (monumentally awful, sold for a Ford 4600 in 1978)
Ford 4600 (Horrible thing)
Ford5600 (excellent, still here)
(Farm size trebled at this point)
MF399 2wd Horrible cab, 3 stick box, could pull a house down, faultless. Traded for a new 3085
Case IH 956XL TB turbo - noisy but powerful. Ate its own gearbox and got traded for a new Maxxum. No ground clearance.
MF3085 - reliable and a step up at the time (Dynashift & air con)
Maxxum 5130 Turbo - slow & noisy, neanderthal synchro spec. Great loader tractor. Ate its own crown wheel & pinion.
NH 8340 - fast & comfy, plenty ground clearance. Useless gearbox.
MF6170 - useless. No go, horribly unreliable
2x6290 - very good, particularly the ccls one. Masseys saving grace here - we'd demod a JD6610 which had a lovely engine, nice cab, terrible gearbox, 3wd & no space round the spools.
MF3075 - replaced the Maxxum along with a 530/70 JCB - both still here. Brilliant little tractor
(spud area doubled at this point)
MF7480 - game changer. Here longer than most, brilliant. One of only 2 tractors to start on the front line and finish as back up (the other being the Ford5600)
MF6490 Dyna 6 - Big leap in power at the time. transmission made of cheese. Super engine.
MF6180 - came at 12yo with 2000hrs as an extra in 2008. Caught fire leading spuds in 2016. Caused us very little bother bar a fluid flywheel in its first few months
MF7495 - bought s/h when we changed the taty harvester and nearly blew the 7480 up trying to pull it. The one that got away, should never of sold it. Brilliant.
(Workload increased again)
2x MF 7620 VT - both very good, still got the newer one (the only VT we've replaced a gearbox in under warranty)
MF 6480 Came to replace the 6180 mostly communal cart tractor. Very comfy, nice smooth tractor. Likes injectors. (T3 Perkins)
MF7618 VT Replaced the venerable 7480 - very good indeed, just not as comfy a ride as the 7720 or 6480
MF7490 vt - bought with 10,000hrs as an extra tractor, proven to be a good buy. Cheap simple reliable capable.
MF7720 VT - replaced a 7620, mostly because its former owner was retiring and we'd good experience of his tractors previously.
International 454 - toy really, bought for my girls to learn to drive on, but handy to have about the place
Red text = bought new

As for whats next? MF 8s back in spring was nice, though we await a VT. Demo Valtra Direct this summer very underwhelming. Claas Axion demo coming up when we've time. Fendt potentially in the running but as a draft tractor (15 reg 7620 next to change) lack of weight & short wheel base of an otherwise excellent 724 concerns me. 800 Fendt to big & expensive. Could be a late MF 7724/26 VT, Could be a new 8s, but we'll have to see how the numbers look. Claas could suprise us yet.
They're all too blimmin dear!!

Glad to hear that more then me have problem with 6170. I buy the last year 3115 (1993 i think) and think it was 1995 the 6170 come to Sweden and my dealer get the first. And he talk me in to it, but that tractor was the worst i have at the farm. I was so angry about the dealer so for the first and only time i go to a JD dealer. I can not remember the model, but i go home with a price and shall talk with father about it. But the MF dealer get to now about it, and take the 6170 back and give me a 8120 for the same money. I think about it a lot, how close is was i should drive JD today.

 

[Spud]

Glad to hear that more then me have problem with 6170. I buy the last year 3115 (1993 i think) and think it was 1995 the 6170 come to Sweden and my dealer get the first. And he talk me in to it, but that tractor was the worst i have at the farm. I was so angry about the dealer so for the first and only time i go to a JD dealer. I can not remember the model, but i go home with a price and shall talk with father about it. But the MF dealer get to now about it, and take the 6170 back and give me a 8120 for the same money. I think about it a lot, how close is was i should drive JD today.

It really was terrible. In the first year, I put more hours on the dealers demo 6180 than my 6170. Never did have any power, smoked badly, lots of electrical problems, jumped out of gear, awful. The 6150's & 6180's we're for some reason far better tractors. I missed one off the list - an 8130 that we had for 6months - it was christened the camel, due to it been temperamental and spitting oil out everywhere. Belter of an engine, but let's say the previous owner had been good with a silicone gun...

 

[Jim75]

Massey virgin, what’s the difference between a 7718, 7618 and 6718 Presuming they’re all 180hp but the rest?

 

[mo!]

7718 superseded the 6718.
7718 and 6718 are six cylinder
7618 is 4 cylinder

Are you sure?

6718 4pot
7618 and 7718 6 pot.

 

[Hampton]

Current 7S launched a fewer weeks ago was largely a facelift of the 7718S
The 7S will be updated to look more like the 8S in 2024.

 

[Hampton]

Are you sure?

6718 4pot
7618 and 7718 6 pot.

No, you are right, got my numbers mixed up.
Will delete previous post to avoid confusion

 

[Lofty1984]

Massey virgin, what’s the difference between a 7718, 7618 and 6718 Presuming they’re all 180hp but the rest?

The 7718 is the replacement model for the 7618 so a six pot with a few updates the 77 being a newer model. Then there’s the S Range off 77 which are updates on the original 77
So all 76/77 are six pot where’s the 67 are all 4 pots
As for differences there are lots

 

[massey ferguson 7616]

Current 7S launched a fewer weeks ago was largely a facelift of the 7718S
The 7S will be updated to look more like the 8S in 2024.

Why the wait for a new cab?