MF 8s

Tractorman 2021

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Mixed Farmer
Thats not the point its still got fixed ratios & plenty who have used various CVTs for years n years will still want a CVT regardless.
Not identifying on the side of these 8S which gbox they have seems odd as well seeing every massey since the 3000 series had either dynashift or then power control or dyna-6 or dyna-vt stamped on every single model & now they dropped it. folks on the used market will be clueless 5 years down the line as too what gbox is in them at a passing glance anyways.
the D7 & E-power might be brilliant & poss swing those away from a more power hungry CVT i dunno, only time will tell.
ive had myself every gbox massey has offered other the last 30years now & the Dyna-vt is by far the best end of.
A lot of it is down to the understanding of the gearbox as there is nothing like the Dyna E-power on the market. The closest thing is the JD AutoPowr which is a CVT gearbox. Yes, there will be a place for both the Dyna E-Power and Dyna VT in the future.

I do agree a decal would be good to have on the bonnet
 

Frankzy

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Location
Jamtland, Sweden
A lot of it is down to the understanding of the gearbox as there is nothing like the Dyna E-power on the market. The closest thing is the JD AutoPowr which is a CVT gearbox. Yes, there will be a place for both the Dyna E-Power and Dyna VT in the future.

You're going to have to educate us on what the difference is compared to a direct drive because all the brochures simply call it a Dual Clutch Transmission....
 

Tompkins

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Location
NE Somerset
As far as I'm aware, the Direct Drive JD has the dual clutch on the powershift steps, meaning there is still a break in drive between ranges.
The Dyna E-Power has a dual clutch on the range change, meaning there is no break in drive through all 28 gears. In the main working range it alternates between 2nd and 3rd range on every shift to give very small steps between gears (i.e. 2A, 3A, 2B, 3B and so on...)
 

Frankzy

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Location
Jamtland, Sweden
As far as I'm aware, the Direct Drive JD has the dual clutch on the powershift steps, meaning there is still a break in drive between ranges.
The Dyna E-Power has a dual clutch on the range change, meaning there is no break in drive through all 28 gears. In the main working range it alternates between 2nd and 3rd range on every shift to give very small steps between gears (i.e. 2A, 3A, 2B, 3B and so on...)

So it is very much the same as a direct Drive except there's no noticable range change... Right....:scratchhead:
Tractorman will have to explain how that means there is "nothing like the Dyna E-power on the market" because that's essentially the same thing.
 

Fragonard

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So it is very much the same as a direct Drive except there's no noticable range change... Right....:scratchhead:
Tractorman will have to explain how that means there is "nothing like the Dyna E-power on the market" because that's essentially the same thing.
Same as Case/NH, Active 8/DC ?
 
Fendt break down too even brand new ones.
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3400hours and a new engine In this one
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
A lot of it is down to the understanding of the gearbox as there is nothing like the Dyna E-power on the market. The closest thing is the JD AutoPowr which is a CVT gearbox. Yes, there will be a place for both the Dyna E-Power and Dyna VT in the future.

I do agree a decal would be good to have on the bonnet
i watched yes i know a right sad O iam a recent Massey Video explaining some of the difference between the two versions of that 28 FIXED gear trans !!
and unless ya upto speed with what the front corner post displays you wouldnt know what gbox it had.
Of course when you come to driving it iam sure that will be easy to know then.
if i had a super duper new trans on my tractor id be displaying a sticker on that bonnet saying so....
Annoyingly it kind of means every dealer having from the outside a version of both tractors which i bet many dont.
Anyone driven a Dyna E Power yet ???
 

Farma Parma

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Arable Farmer
Location
Northumberlandia
View attachment 9445933400hours and a new engine In this one
you do realise the New Engine isnt normally a full new engine
its the piston rings that have dogged them engines from new, well it 100% is in a 900 series but it used the bigger engine
so i presume its a similar issue on them 828's
i still cant get over how they get some much power from the same basic lump thats in a 700series underneath
are they twin turbo'd possibly ive not looked at there engine spec build as such.
Them Fendts should have just had MAN engines in from the day they stopped fitting the MWN wasnt it back in the 80's ??
There must be some legal spegal tied up with the homeland that its pretty much gotta be a home produced engine in them iam sure of that
thats if its all possible of course. who knows.
 

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