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Tractor Boy

Member
Location
Suffolk
why is it ridiculous ? MF have just about the shittest reputationn for reliability you could wish for with combines - why would someone not be happy to pay more for a machine that doesn't break down, be that Claas, JD or NH ??

i like many farms cant afford downtime when the workload is big
I don't have an MF combine or any of the three makes you mention above. I just can't see how CLaas are worth that much more. I have seen every combine with the guards up stood in a field with a dealers van beside at some time or another!!
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
I don't have an MF combine or any of the three makes you mention above. I just can't see how CLaas are worth that much more. I have seen every combine with the guards up stood in a field with a dealers van beside at some time or another!!

No down time on our lexion this year so far - that has to be worth a premium over a combine that has a reputation of breaking down regularly ?

Off course they all break eventually but some break more often than others
 

Salopian_Will

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Shropshire
I don't have an MF combine or any of the three makes you mention above. I just can't see how CLaas are worth that much more. I have seen every combine with the guards up stood in a field with a dealers van beside at some time or another!!

I am not keen on brand bashing, as in general, most modern kit is good. I will however say that we would be hesitant to have a Massey, even if it was less than half the price of a New Holland or Claas.

You hear horror stories about all brands but then there are lots of them running. Despite only selling a handful a year, you still hear plenty of horror stories about MFs. I would hope that they haven't managed to wreck the Laverda based ones, as they were on the whole, rather good in my view.

Even if they cost half the price of a Claas or NH, I bet those would still probably be cheaper to run over any time, mainly due to depreciation.
 
Well one of the drive shafts has just broken this morning (making three major faults) which will be a fairly large job to replace. Luckily with a bit of liquid metal as a temporary fix and we're moving again but we've seen quite enough of the fitter's van for the time being.

As already said every make gets it wrong (remember last year Clive?!) but I would be interested to have an unbiased idea of the relative reliability. Certainly we are surrounded by Lexions at the moment.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Well one of the drive shafts has just broken this morning (making three major faults) which will be a fairly large job to replace. Luckily with a bit of liquid metal as a temporary fix and we're moving again but we've seen quite enough of the fitter's van for the time being.

As already said every make gets it wrong (remember last year Clive?!) but I would be interested to have an unbiased idea of the relative reliability. Certainly we are surrounded by Lexions at the moment.

Yes I agree no make is perfect, far from it

Last year as you know was a performance disaster but actually a fairly reliable disaster at least !

All I'm saying in this thread is if MF are serious about selling these machines and they are good now I think they need to rebrand to help people like me look beyond the reputation they now have
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
Didn't the 600's have a bad batch of enginesa few years ago? Think there were 10 or 12 locally that needed open heart surgery, and one or two new engines as a result of the fix not getting done in time. Nothing is perfect in this life.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Didn't the 600's have a bad batch of enginesa few years ago? Think there were 10 or 12 locally that needed open heart surgery, and one or two new engines as a result of the fix not getting done in time. Nothing is perfect in this life.

Your right, I doubt any brand can claim to be perfect but some would certainly claim to be better than others

MF have a reputation for unreliable combines - unless they do something to address that they will never sell in great numbers
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I don't have an MF combine or any of the three makes you mention above. I just can't see how CLaas are worth that much more. I have seen every combine with the guards up stood in a field with a dealers van beside at some time or another!!

They aren't much more, a neighbour was pricing new rotary Claas and new holland, Claas 20k cheaper.
 

Badshot

Member
Location
Kent
Your right, I doubt any brand can claim to be perfect but some would certainly claim to be better than others

MF have a reputation for unreliable combines - unless they do something to address that they will never sell in great numbers


I agree and it will also need the MF dealers to wake up and provide the backup. The main reason Claas is often the preferred choice is the fact that they have such a huge stock of parts available at all times and will bend over backwards to get it to you asap, sadly this is not the case with some other brands, although so far for me this year MF have been good and although my dealer seems to keep nothing in stock at all, the parts required have been here next morning so maybe they are upping their game a bit centrally but could maybe encourage dealers to hold a bit of stock too.

My next combine will probably be an old axial flow anyway, the simplicity draws me to them.
 

vardy

New Member
No down time on our lexion this year so far - that has to be worth a premium over a combine that has a reputation of breaking down regularly ?

Off course they all break eventually but some break more often than others
What about fire on fuel tank,and having to blow down twice daily? That must involve some 'down time'
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
What about fire on fuel tank,and having to blow down twice daily? That must involve some 'down time'

Not really - fire was discovered at about 9pm just before were going to pack up anyway as it was damp - bodge was done with tape and sealant the next morning before starting that got us going until a new tank was delivered and fitted on a day when we were not cutting (waiting for crop to get fit)

We are not blowing down twice daily - just once before we start as specified by Claas, it's not being done when we could be cutting but as part of daily maintenance. Very impressive machine, they just need to sort the potential fire issues which I'm sure they will and I will be very happy with it
 

Dalers

Member
Location
Cornwall
I don't have an MF combine or any of the three makes you mention above. I just can't see how CLaas are worth that much more. I have seen every combine with the guards up stood in a field with a dealers van beside at some time or another!!

When I priced our combine we asked MF for a quote and a 5walker Beta auto level was way more than we ended up paying for our new Claas 630 Montana, when I spoke to the rep I said that it would have to be well priced as depreciation would be bad but he didn't seem to care, can't see how they will sell many until they sort their prices.
 

rob1

Member
Location
wiltshire
When I priced our combine we asked MF for a quote and a 5walker Beta auto level was way more than we ended up paying for our new Claas 630 Montana, when I spoke to the rep I said that it would have to be well priced as depreciation would be bad but he didn't seem to care, can't see how they will sell many until they sort their prices.
Perhaps it was priced high as the dealer didnt want the agro of an unhappy customer, unless they made a higher margin on the sale to cover the cost
 

Dalers

Member
Location
Cornwall
Perhaps it was priced high as the dealer didnt want the agro of an unhappy customer, unless they made a higher margin on the sale to cover the cost
Maybe ,the local rep didn't know much about combines so he got the MF combine guy down and he did the price, so I assume as he's employed by MF direct he would want to shift them.
Either way I could have bought a new Freelander with the price difference, mental.
 
New 770tt on hire. This year:

Rotor pulley was removed and reinstalled after day one
Cebis has not worked from day 1 and now some 40 days later it still does not work. We have a small handful of complete yield maps and for the first time in 8 seasons will not have any yield data to refer back to
Returns Belt cracked up yesterday
 

John 1594

Member
Location
Cambridgeshire
New 770tt on hire. This year:

Rotor pulley was removed and reinstalled after day one
Cebis has not worked from day 1 and now some 40 days later it still does not work. We have a small handful of complete yield maps and for the first time in 8 seasons will not have any yield data to refer back to
Returns Belt cracked up yesterday


best combine on the market if you believe some people o_O
 
best combine on the market if you believe some people o_O

Its ok. Its not a massive step up from the 580/600's though by any means. Cabs better but its still to noisy, hydraulics are better but the guts of it and chopper are about the same. Fuel use is about the same which is 15l/ha. Servicing is easy and straight forward. The extra long unloading spout looked frightening, but in reality its very good. Header is very noisy but crop feed is excellent.

All in all its fine and as before backup has been great except this cebis problem which I cant believe they have not replaced the cebis in the cab and all the wiring and receiver to allow us to yield map. Then taken our removed gear away to test elsewhere.
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
I don't have an MF combine or any of the three makes you mention above. I just can't see how CLaas are worth that much more. I have seen every combine with the guards up stood in a field with a dealers van beside at some time or another!!

The gearbox went on our 05 570 on Friday night. The next day the dealer drove a demonstrator combine over 100 miles from the black isle down to our farm arrived 11 at night. We will have cut over 300 acres with demo machine. Ours should be going again tomorrow. Would any other brand offer this sort of service for a 7 year old machine?
 

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