Might as well pack up

[DrWazzock]

So how is all this low protein wheat going to make bread using the Chorley Wood process? It's not just about yield. It's about quality.

 

[DrWazzock]

There really are some dreamers on here. Yields of a tonne per acre of shrivelled low protein shite? Even chickens wont eat it. Modern varieties are bred for high N input.

 

[redsloe]

I can see a lot of dairy cows hanging on a hook

Not all about arable doncha know

Abattoirs going mad for cows and have been so for months.

 

[J 1177]

Its going to be a rocky ride thats 4 sure

 

[ollie989898]

There really are some dreamers on here. Yields of a tonne per acre of shrivelled low protein shite? Even chickens wont eat it. Modern varieties are bred for high N input.

Chickens survived for eons eating just about anything. Some wrinkled low protein wheat is a gourmet dish for them or was until some bright spark decided to shove 100,000 of them in a shed and feed them soya.

 

[Barleymow]

On my 100 acres of milling wheat at 1200 for fert 160 tons at 300 would buy the N then there is the diesel and chemicals

 

[Bill the Bass]

How long before the news paper headlines are ‘greedy farmers take greenwash subsidy to avoid growing food for the people’

It will of course be all our fault when ELM is blamed for driving up the price of food.

 

[Bald Rick]

Go and visit an organic dairy farm and learn how they do it with slurry muck and legumes
It can be done

at 1300 I will halve the rate or more and take a lower yield
Needing less combine dryer loading and labour
1300 a tonne or £4 a kg of n needs wheat at 500 a tonne to maintain the rate

Pfft. Shaved my beard off last week...

Seriously, we already prioritise slurry as we've already paid for it

 

[MrNoo]

Depends on the final price of grain. Should get 1-1.5 ton / acre of barley without fert.
At £500 ton for barley that's OK.

Is that assured or not???? Guess RT will want some of the price action, feck um I say

 

[Northern territory]

Pfft. Shaved my beard off last week...

Seriously, we already prioritise slurry as we've already paid for it

Also I’m sure organic farms burn a fair bit of diesel don’t they.

 

[Bald Rick]

Also I’m sure organic farms burn a fair bit of diesel don’t they.

Don't think the organic milk price is too clever either @Sid ?

 

[MrNoo]

Also I’m sure organic farms burn a fair bit of diesel don’t they.

Certainly drying corn down they do, chap I know is organic and dries everything down to 13% as always a lot of crap in the sample, says it's the only way to be able to store it for any time. But oh my, the couch on the place, there was a ploughing match there and it was like ploughing grass as all the rhizomes kept the slice together.

 

[Sid]

Don't think the organic milk price is too clever either @Sid ?

Woll be nearly half a pence less than last April.

Cake up £125/t

Rolling in clover.....thank god!

 

[An Gof]

What I don't get about these sky high grain prices, is surely someone down the chain is going to refuse to pay the increased costs? Even if it went right through to retail bread, at £10 a loaf not much would sell.

Depends how hungry you are

 

[An Gof]

Either price of the finished product at your farm gate pencils (as the Americans like to say) or you don't produce it. It is that simple. The cost of fertiliser when lumping on to the average shopping bill will be pennies added to the total.

The price of the stuff at the farm gate will have to increase or no one will use fertiliser and supply will drop back. All you guys will do is pass on the cost to the buyers. It's not like any farmer will be able to totally negate the cost increases so for once you will be in the same basket as each other.

Hell of a risk if you have a bad wet harvest from hell

 

[serf]

Could be a good thing really, I mean farmers feel under valued and are all running to stand still, your all on the treadmill doing same old stuff for little return long term.
A shortage of food globally could help long term, as unrest in the public of the country could well cause trouble for the government, this may see a change of opinion by the leaders, and thus a change of policy on agriculture and environmental schemes.
So hold on in there for the rocky ride ahead, but might do as much good for food production in UK as it did after ww2.

'Soooo Mr Johnson, you want us to grow some fooooddd!!!! '

 

[ollie989898]

Hell of a risk if you have a bad wet harvest from hell

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[Bald Rick]

Depends how hungry you are

Going to be famine in poorer countries. If we thought we'd seen migration before ... Well, we ain't seen nothing yet
Half the planet will be on the move and the other half will be trying to shove them back

 

[DrWazzock]

Chickens survived for eons eating just about anything. Some wrinkled low protein wheat is a gourmet dish for them or was until some bright spark decided to shove 100,000 of them in a shed and feed them soya.

They laid a clutch of eggs in the spring then went broody.
Ah well, well just have to get used to seasonal produce.

 

[serf]

Going to be famine in poorer countries. If we thought we'd seen migration before ... Well, we ain't seen nothing yet
Half the planet will be on the move and the other half will be trying to shove them back

But a least we will have pristine clean air to breath in from all these trees as we slowly starve to death