Milk Price Tracker

[jimmer]

About fecking time.

Muller non-aligned up 2p on Jan 1st

You'll be in market buying more cows tomorrow

 

[Beef farmer]

Lidl knew what was going to happen

 

[jackrussell101]

Still not very good really, they should have been at 32p at the start of September, not getting there nearly at the end of Winter.

Cost increases are horrendous in comparison to what the milk price has increased by.

 

[jondear]

36.935ppl including 2.6ppl constituents , AB free and hygiene payments.

Otherwise painful!

All depends on allocation Ours was 39p as hit target .With 2 p constiuants.

 

[Ducati899]

Lidl knew what was going to happen

lidl did they know when they signed up

 

[Sid]

All depends on allocation Ours was 39p as hit target .With 2 p constiuants.

But your costs will have increased disproportionately as you will be a higher percentage of winter milk.

Still not sustainable

 

[Horn&corn]

But your costs will have increased disproportionately as you will be a higher percentage of winter milk.

Still not sustainable

Just paid £1080 for a load of organic soya. Needs to be well north of 40p to make that stack up

 

[Martyn]

Just paid £1080 for a load of organic soya. Needs to be well north of 40p to make that stack up

I would think that with protein input costs where they are if prices dont lift then we just won't produce the milk volumes, we are running 20% back on last year.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Just paid £1080 for a load of organic soya. Needs to be well north of 40p to make that stack up

You've found the one input that makes fertilizer look cheap.

 

[lazy farmer]

Was told today apparently a lot of organic proteins coming out of India can no longer be described as being organic!

 

[Farmer Keith]

Just paid £1080 for a load of organic soya. Needs to be well north of 40p to make that stack up

Organic soya, not sure that sits too well with the climate change rhetoric? Probably grow that on the virgin rainforest soils…

 

[jondear]

But your costs will have increased disproportionately as you will be a higher percentage of winter milk.

Still not sustainable

Can't disagree.

 

[Sid]

Organic soya, not sure that sits too well with the climate change rhetoric? Probably grow that on the virgin rainforest soils…

Is there much rainforest in India and China?

But not sustainable long-term

 

[Farmer Keith]

But not sustainable long-term

That was my point, the ethos of organic farming is certainly not about importing soya from anywhere in the world, unfortunately buying from India or China is only adding to global demand which in turn means more is grown in the tropics.

If I was buying organic milk at a premium I certainly would not expect soya to be fed to the cows producing it.

 

[Martyn]

That was my point, the ethos of organic farming is certainly not about importing soya from anywhere in the world, unfortunately buying from India or China is only adding to global demand which in turn means more is grown in the tropics.

If I was buying organic milk at a premium I certainly would not expect soya to be fed to the cows producing it.

I think it will highly likely in the future it will roll into organic milk contracts being soya free. I totally agree, I also personaly think organic food should be market within the country it's produces, seam mad producing a organic product to then ship it many miles to affluent areas of the globe.

 

[Sid]

That was my point, the ethos of organic farming is certainly not about importing soya from anywhere in the world, unfortunately buying from India or China is only adding to global demand which in turn means more is grown in the tropics.

If I was buying organic milk at a premium I certainly would not expect soya to be fed to the cows producing it.

The carbon footprint of any bought in product should be questioned.

Transportation by container ship is actually very efficient in energy terms, its the method of production that has the greatest effect.
Hence the issue with conventionally produced soya from Brazil or Palm oil production.

You then also have to factor in the quality of that feed especially in poultry and swine.

 

[Farmer Keith]

The carbon footprint of any bought in product should be questioned.

Transportation by container ship is actually very efficient in energy terms, its the method of production that has the greatest effect.
Hence the issue with conventionally produced soya from Brazil or Palm oil production.

You then also have to factor in the quality of that feed especially in poultry and swine.

Totally agree regarding shipping, especially with the amount or cargo one of those monster ships carries.

The real issue is that we’re trying to make cows milk in the winter is it not? Surely we only need enough to drink fresh and all the cheese and butter production should maybe be switched over to being produced in season when we have a brilliant protien source that grows really well in our climate? Of course no dairy in there right mind will agree with that as it means having stainless steel sitting redundant over winter.

 

[Jdunn55]

Totally agree regarding shipping, especially with the amount or cargo one of those monster ships carries.

The real issue is that we’re trying to make cows milk in the winter is it not? Surely we only need enough to drink fresh and all the cheese and butter production should maybe be switched over to being produced in season when we have a brilliant protien source that grows really well in our climate? Of course no dairy in there right mind will agree with that as it means having stainless steel sitting redundant over winter.

It also means grazing the cows

 

[Sid]

Totally agree regarding shipping, especially with the amount or cargo one of those monster ships carries.

The real issue is that we’re trying to make cows milk in the winter is it not? Surely we only need enough to drink fresh and all the cheese and butter production should maybe be switched over to being produced in season when we have a brilliant protien source that grows really well in our climate? Of course no dairy in there right mind will agree with that as it means having stainless steel sitting redundant over winter.

There is also some merit in feeding less of a higher quality feed.

Processing capacity is always at a premium in peak.

So as much as we would all like to produce milk at the most efficient time , there are multiple reason why that isn't for everyone.

 

[Farmer Keith]

There is also some merit in feeding less of a higher quality feed.

Processing capacity is always at a premium in peak.

So as much as we would all like to produce milk at the most efficient time , there are multiple reason why that isn't for everyone.

Some investment would obviously be needed if the national production profile were to change for sure.