Milking Cow Tubes

[westwards]

There is a real problem at the moment with Tetra Delta not available till April, and many other tubes running out.
Tetra Delta has worked very well for us in the past cases we have had .

What are other folks using or are you jagging with antibiotics if so what do you use ?

 

[Tarw Coch]

Vets have supplied unto yellow here which are apparently going out of production at some point.

There seems to be a supply problem with lots of drugs at the moment, never known the likes of it before.

 

[Princess Pooper]

We have very few clincial mastitis cases, but Combiclav tubes, o vet's recommendation, always work for us (Cepravin dry cow for those that need it).

 

[bigw]

We don’t bother giving tubes anymore as none seem to work that well for us, we used to get on really well with cobactan. Everything now is mainly metacam and fluids with some getting Betamox.

 

[Will Blackburn]

Clue, they’re made in China.

 

[vantage]

Of the cows treated this autumn/ winter , one, a new heifer, made a full recovery , another I culled as she was persistently getting mastitis and the most recent has an ecoli, so best case is lose the quarter. Would I have been any worse off not having IM tubes?

 

[Spudley]

We are currently giving antibiotics to fewer and fewer cases of mastitis, just uddermint and a good hand stripping after milking seems to be working on most of them. It can take a week sometimes. Those we do treat have one shot and then they go three quartered and then they go.

 

[thewalrus]

Ubrolexin used here
Metacam used if hard or swollen quarter

 

[pappuller]

We are currently giving antibiotics to fewer and fewer cases of mastitis, just uddermint and a good hand stripping after milking seems to be working on most of them. It can take a week sometimes. Those we do treat have one shot and then they go three quartered and then they go.

How do you find SCC on these 1/4s ? We generally find high SCC cows are generally high on the previously infected 1/4 if not treated with tubes

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Combiclav is the im I use, bit of a broad spectrum one.

At the risk of jinxing it, it's something I need to have a conversation about. As I'm using so few, the box is going out of date before I've used any.

 

[Spudley]

How do you find SCC on these 1/4s ? We generally find high SCC cows are generally high on the previously infected 1/4 if not treated with tubes

We just stop milking on that quarter, so wouldn't milk record that quarter again in that lactation. About 75% come back in that quarter on the next lactation and the scc is usually fine.

 

[deerandgrassland.com]

Ubrolexin used here
Metacam used if hard or swollen quarter

How long course of ubrolexin do you do? We use the same but doesn't seem very effective using the recommended 2 tubes...

 

[pappuller]

We just stop milking on that quarter, so wouldn't milk record that quarter again in that lactation. About 75% come back in that quarter on the next lactation and the scc is usually fine.

Same as here, we've started switching any persistently high conductivity 1/4s off on the bots and it certainly seems to be working

 

[thewalrus]

How long course of ubrolexin do you do? We use the same but doesn't seem very effective using the recommended 2 tubes...

3-5 depending on seriousness. Vet told us to tube until Clots are gone.

 

[deerandgrassland.com]

3-5 depending on seriousness. Vet told us to tube until Clots are gone.

Thanks, will try it next time on this way, I guess the withdrawal period will be around 7 days?

 

[Fergieman]

Dear Red Tractor Member At the present time there is a shortage of ‘first line’ lactating cow tubes available to veterinary practices in the UK as a result of supply issues. Consequently, this means that there are fewer prescription products available for use on dairy farms for the treatment of mastitis in cows. With the likelihood of this supply shortage going on for a while some veterinary practices may need to turn to fourth generation cephalosporin products, which are categorised as Highest Priority Critically Important Antibiotics (HP-CIA’s) as the prescribed product for treatment of mastitis. In collaboration with the British Cattle Veterinary Association (BCVA), Red Tractor has given guidance to veterinary practices on how to ensure you stay compliant with Red Tractor Standards when they are prescribing last resort HP-CIA’s. Prescribing these fourth-generation products must be on a case-by-case basis with the practice supplying you a justification note for the reason behind the need to use them. While the justification is clear, a shortage of alternative products, Red Tractor and the BCVA has advised veterinary practices that they still expect testing will be undertaken to ensure an appropriate product/active ingredient choice has been made. Vets have been signposted to the justification note template on the Red Tractor website here. Currently with the end of the supply shortage unknown, Red Tractor is encouraging you to discuss the issue of mastitis with your vet. Such conversations could determine if changes to your cow management might reduce the risk of infection occurring in the first place. Please also consider initiatives such as the AHDB Dairy Mastitis Control Plan, which is delivering an evidence-based nationwide approach to mastitis prevention and control. You can find further details of this project here. If you require any further clarification on remaining compliant with Red Tractor standards, please get in touch with Kate Cross, Red Tractor Dairy Technical Manager on 07384 517933 or [email protected].

Additional Notes The requirement for the justification of product use applies to Red Tractor Standards compliance only. Some first purchasers are introducing additional requirements, please discuss them with your milk buyer. The Veterinary Medicine Directorate release relating to the supply shortage can be found on Gov.uk website here Red Tractor Team 020 3617 3670

 

[Princess Pooper]

Combiclav is the im I use, bit of a broad spectrum one.

At the risk of jinxing it, it's something I need to have a conversation about. As I'm using so few, the box is going out of date before I've used any.

yes, we buy a few at a time to give weekend cover for a couple of cows max for exactly the same reason, as we had several go out of date. Clinical mastitis currently running at 6 cases per 100 cows per year and we have less than 100 cows.

 

[pappuller]

yes, we buy a few at a time to give weekend cover for a couple of cows max for exactly the same reason, as we had several go out of date. Clinical mastitis currently running at 6 cases per 100 cows per year and we have less than 100 cows.

Hats off to you, I thought I was doing well @ 13/ 100 cows.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Hats off to you, I thought I was doing well @ 13/ 100 cows.

2 of those were toxic E coli last spring in quick succession, very nearly lost one of them, managed to save her but lost a quarter.

 

[Yonlass]

Mastiplan doing the job here. Same family as Ubrolexin, but with steroid aswell.