buttercup
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Have just taken out a lot of milk parlour bits, pipe work, milk pump,jet washers and vacum pump that you can "have" for a good home....
Jaw, jaw, better than war, war.Talk to them. Be direct aswell would be the easiest solution.
very well put, and perfectly correct. One certainly cannot knock him for giving it his all, and l really hope he succeeds, we need keen lads like him. But, he seems to have quite a large amount of 'financial backing' somewhere behind him, that we never had, l cringe at some of his reasoning, certainly l couldn't have done as much as he has, once we started, cheap cows were the target, and our processor, didn't worry about cc, till the tank was over 1000cc, we never got anywhere near that, but milked a lot of 3/4 cows - they were cheaper.You won't like this @Jdunn55 but here goes.
You've gone into a new farm with a fixed idea of how you want it to be and, frankly, you've set your sights too high. You need to have a set up that suits the farm you've got, not the farm you wish you had. If that means fewer cows and/or lower yields or a completely different system to what you are trying to do now, then so be it.
Your wishlist of what you want if you move tells a tale. If you are going to start with 100 cows, you just need a basic 8 or 10 unit herringbone (or even an abreast) parlour-all the bells and whistles like cluster flush, acr's, autowash can wait. And for where you are, do you even need to house the cows?
Look at what @Cows 'n grass has done with virtually no infrastructure and how @som farmer got back into dairying on a budget.
There's a wealth of experience on TFF, don't be afraid to use it.
Public forum probably not the best place to air landlord/ Tenant problems,it will end badly!!Talk to them. Be direct aswell would be the easiest solution.
Public forum probably not the best place to air landlord/ Tenant problems,it will end badly!!
Thankyou, I will not be going into any detail as to what has happened here on a public forum because a: it's no one's business but the people involved but b: it'd not the right place to do it regardlessPublic forum probably not the best place to air landlord/ Tenant problems,it will end badly!!
You're wrong, I agree with virtually everything you've just said.You won't like this @Jdunn55 but here goes.
You've gone into a new farm with a fixed idea of how you want it to be and, frankly, you've set your sights too high. You need to have a set up that suits the farm you've got, not the farm you wish you had. If that means fewer cows and/or lower yields or a completely different system to what you are trying to do now, then so be it.
Your wishlist of what you want if you move tells a tale. If you are going to start with 100 cows, you just need a basic 8 or 10 unit herringbone (or even an abreast) parlour-all the bells and whistles like cluster flush, acr's, autowash can wait. And for where you are, do you even need to house the cows?
Look at what @Cows 'n grass has done with virtually no infrastructure and how @som farmer got back into dairying on a budget.
There's a wealth of experience on TFF, don't be afraid to use it.
It's not my landlord who's the liar, I'm not in a very good situation here, I really like my landlord but I am scared to stay here. I need to be ready to move, I can't explain why for reasons already said.Loose housing works fine for spring calvers with a short winter. At every stage on my expansion I've put cows on first and followed with infrastructure.
As a long term tenant I strongly agree with what's been said above. I usually have at least a dozen landlords to deal with and I will always have one or two who are being difficult to deal with in some way. Always you just have to learn to nod, smile, walk away and not fall out with them despite sometimes wanting to tell them where they can stick their land!
Calling your landlords liars on here isn't something I'd recommend. While they might not read things on here, their children or grandchildren might and that's unlikely to improve your relationship or achieve the results you desire.
I think I might have given the wrong impression with this thread, I'm not on about phoning the builders tomorrow and getting them there next week.
Like @frederick said, it's going to take a minimum of 2 years.
I just need to be ready to go for reasons I can't explain on here.
The first stage for me atleast is budgeting to work out what I can afford, in order to do that I need to know what stuff costs which is what this thread was for.
Then it will be planning, followed by permissions, foundations and building. Then if things are fine in 2-3 years time it's no panic I just have some "spare" sheds which I can almost guarantee will be full with something whether it be youngstock, straw or general sh!t (I've never seen a shed empty for long!)
We scrape our cow shed out every day and re-bed infact it's scraped in front by the barriers in the evening too and the bedding topped up , we use a fair heap of straw but have a fair dung heap ... hopefully not buying any p&k this yearDue to various backgrounds issues that most on here don't know about (and I'm not going to post what the issues are on a public forum but they don't seem to be getting resolved), I'm not sure how long I can put up with staying where I am - and no it's not because the cows have escaped again!
Has anyone had a price recently for a milking parlour? Looking for something with acrs, milk meters and cluster flush, possibly and automatic wash system too depending on price. How many units? Currently hovering around 100 cows at peak but hopefully going up to 150 and then we will see where we are. Was thinking 15?
Obviously haven't got an endless supply of cash and the parlour is going to cost enough, so instead of a massive bill for a lagoon (which might end up not being legal anyway because who knows what on earth is going on with slurry regs!), cubicle House etc was thinking of just putting up a shed ready for cubicles but loose housing in it? How much space per cow and how much straw would they use? Would 7m² be about right and 10kg a day of straw?
Thanks
Could we see a photo please, so used to cubicle systems here.We scrape our cow shed out every day and re-bed infact it's scraped in front by the barriers in the evening too and the bedding topped up , we use a fair heap of straw but have a fair dung heap ... hopefully not buying any p&k this year
Shed is 75ft by 40ft barriers about 12 ft out side for more room 64 milkers in there
Could we see a photo please, so used to cubicle systems here.
Here you go My cowsCould we see a photo please, so used to cubicle systems here.
How often do you have to clean the whole shed out? Is mastitis a big issue? Lovely seeing cows on straw. Do you still run a slurry pit for the front scraping or does it all go out as dung?Here you go My cows
We scrape the wHow often do you have to clean the whole shed out? Is mastitis a big issue? Lovely seeing cows on straw. Do you still run a slurry pit for the front scraping or does it all go out as dung?
We scrape the whole shed every morning and then throw around some cubicle lime then bed upHow often do you have to clean the whole shed out? Is mastitis a big issue? Lovely seeing cows on straw. Do you still run a slurry pit for the front scraping or does it all go out as dung?