MilkSure!

[lazy farmer]

What the fact antibiotic milk being used for calves? or that less milk for them to have?

The former

 

[Princess Pooper]

Even after 3 days on top of statutory withhold it can still fail. We delvo everything. To supply our milk buyer everyone on farm who administers meds to cows or calves had to do it - not just people who have had a failure. We haven't had a failure in as many years as I can remember but still learned something.

 

[multi power]

What the fact antibiotic milk being used for calves? or that less milk for them to have?

And then we wonder why there is antibiotic resistance

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Even after 3 days on top of statutory withhold it can still fail. We delvo everything. To supply our milk buyer everyone on farm who administers meds to cows or calves had to do it - not just people who have had a failure. We haven't had a failure in as many years as I can remember but still learned something.

Really? Never had a delvo fail if you're using the drug on label and give the set withhold.

 

[Dragon]

Really? Never had a delvo fail if you're using the drug on label and give the set withhold.

Not following cascade procedure when administering meds. For instance metcambe + intramary is 7 day withdrawl regardless of what says on the label. The training is an eye opener.

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Thats off label use though

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Off label = Delvo
On Label = No Delvo needed
I could be wrong but this is what I recall from doing the course.

 

[Dragon]

Thats off label use though

Iirc it' not called off label now. The technical term is "cascade".
Tbh I didn' know the actuall meaning of off label, not many others in the room did either.

 

[frederick]

Not following cascade procedure when administering meds. For instance metcambe + intramary is 7 day withdrawl regardless of what says on the label. The training is an eye opener.

Now thats why its a minefield. My course would have said that was on label. Both drugs are completely seperate effects so no cascade. So simply longest withold so long as no more than reccomended tubes were used

 

[frederick]

Iirc it' not called off label now. The technical term is "cascade".
Tbh I didn' know the actuall meaning of off label, not many others in the room did either.

Again i beg to differ from my course. Cascade is when you use more drug than reccomended. ie 4 tubes when the box says 3 or using an intramammary tube and an injection with the same active ingredient.

Off label use i understood was as soon as you deviate from whatever it says on the box or bottle.

 

[kp_n_plghng]

Well your both right since we haven't specified the exact drug nor the active ingredient we cant say either way!

 

[Fergieman]

Everyday is a school day.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Our vet is putting pasties on. No brainer

Snap. I've got pub lunches this week courtesy of the BVD free scheme on Wednesday and Milksure on Friday.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Off label = Delvo
On Label = No Delvo needed
I could be wrong but this is what I recall from doing the course.

When we had a Delvo fail it was on a dry cow treated with cepravin, she had the statutory withhold both in terms of days dry and days in milk withheld, but failed for several more days. It actually says on the product data sheet that milk from cows treated with cepravin should be tested before allowing back into the tank - DO NOT just rely on following the required withhold. http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/?id=-454434

We are the ones selling the milk. We are responsible for ensuring it is safe and testing for antibiotics after use is a reasonable and sensible precaution. It also allows for incidences such as deciding not to milk out a cow fully on the first milking after calving if she has masses of milk on, as this will also affect the rate at which antimicrobials leave the body.

 

[kill]

Snap. I've got pub lunches this week courtesy of the BVD free scheme on Wednesday and Milksure on Friday.

I love how dairy farmers get perks. It really amuzes me every time there's a meeting to go to now we get feed where as being beef farmers you're lucky to get a coffee so it's still at the novelty point for me.

 

[vantage]

I love how dairy farmers get perks. It really amuzes me every time there's a meeting to go to now we get feed where as being beef farmers you're lucky to get a coffee so it's still at the novelty point for me.

That's because there can be a lot of money swilling about with milk,the key is to retain it for yourself and not line someone else's pocket uneccesarily!

 

[andrew830]

When we had a Delvo fail it was on a dry cow treated with cepravin, she had the statutory withhold both in terms of days dry and days in milk withheld, but failed for several more days. It actually says on the product data sheet that milk from cows treated with cepravin should be tested before allowing back into the tank - DO NOT just rely on following the required withhold. http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/?id=-454434

We are the ones selling the milk. We are responsible for ensuring it is safe and testing for antibiotics after use is a reasonable and sensible precaution. It also allows for incidences such as deciding not to milk out a cow fully on the first milking after calving if she has masses of milk on, as this will also affect the rate at which antimicrobials leave the body.

We had the same,a cow was treated with cepravin and its dates were all correct yet it still failed.We now delvo test everything.

 

[coomoo]

For instance metcambe + intramary is 7 day withdrawl regardless of what says on the label.

A Mary’s something different here in all seriousness I’m sure when it has to be done I’ll learn something as long as I get my dairy pro points for attendance I am a professional after all

 

[jimmer]

Why are people still using cepravin ?
It's like russian roulette !!!!

 

[lazy farmer]

Why are people still using cepravin ?
It's like russian roulette !!!!

12 weeks dry works