Minette Batters one Question Time tonight.

JP1

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Livestock Farmer
Apologize for cows destroying the planet again did she ?
She spoke well

She did also speak up for George Eustice in the pig crisis which I find strange and annoying as there’s nothing public that I can see . Radio all week and he’s refused to be interviewed and regurgitating the same old statement about monitoring the situation

BBC back on form this morning as the State mind police with radio headlines about a long term trends survey saying meat consumption down 17g / 17 % over 15 years (it changed metric half way through the piece). Still panning red meat “that we know causes climate change” with half back handed bit about grass fed UK better than grain fed import but still concluding major polluter and “we” need to reduce consumption by 30% for climate and health reasons

What a wonderful time to be a good livestock farmer
 

delilah

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She always does speak well. Yet every time I hear one of the NFU top table they manage to include an apology for farmings impact on the environment.

Yes heard the Victoria Gill report, I fully imagine it will get a panning on here, Joseph Poore figures, BBC bias etc etc. Yet what did she do wrong ?
She said that there is a difference in the environmental impact of different beef production systems. That's what many on here keep saying.
She said that we need to reduce red meat consumption to save the planet. That's what the NFU and AHDB consistently say.
It's not the BBC or vegan academics that are the problem, its us. Complete muppets.
 

Happy

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She did speak well.

Re. George Eustice,it was more a canny political move as you don’t want to slag off someone who you need a favour the next day.
Eustice is just the Trojan horse for the Ag industry appointed because he has farming background.

I’ve banged on about Goldsmith, Juniper and eco chums pulling the strings of government policy on here for a good few years now.

With Goldsmith’s trainee Nut Nuts now in charge they have all their ducks in a row and people are finally waking up to why their appointments were made and where things are going.

NFU sucking up to Eustice is a waste of time. He’ll be out the door when he’s served his purpose.
 

Yale

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Livestock Farmer
Eustice is just the Trojan horse appointed because he has farming background.

I’ve banged on about Goldsmith, Juniper and eco chums pulling the strings if government policy on here for a good few years now.

With Goldsmith’s trainee Nut Nuts now in charge they have all their ducks in a row and people are finally waking up to why their appointments were made and where things are going.

NFU sucking up to Eustice is a waste of time. He’ll be out the door when he’s served his purpose.
So do you shut off your contact by upsetting them or play the game?
 
So do you shut off your contact by upsetting them or play the game?
I think you politely suggest practical ways forward which might be considered and acted upon.

" I wonder if George/ the govenment might explain what short term help they can give the pig industry and consider implementing x,y,z (e.g. 12 month work visas for pig processing staff)...."

..."and help industry develop longer term strategic solutions"
 

Yale

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Livestock Farmer
Annoys me a little. It shouldn’t be about favours and ‘conversations’ in dark corridors, it should be plain spoken and robust negotiation.
Indeed,but politics is politics.

Judging by Boris on Andrew Marr plain spoken and robust doesn’t seem to be in his vocabulary.

You could ask Boris if night was day and he would respond with ‘levelling up will make the whole country equal,about the shining light of Brexit and how labour are on the dark side’,but you wouldn’t get a straight answer…..or any answer.:facepalm:(n)
 
Did any of you watch the programme?
I thought Minette did well, and no, she was unapologetic for supporting GB farming. And, surprisingly, very critical of government policy.

Now, a snippet re fertiliser / CO2 from a long term critic * of UK energy / gas supplies:

"It is easy for ministers to pretend that the current gas price crisis is a shock that will go away, as demand responds to higher prices. Closing down a fertiliser factory does indeed reduce demand and in the process make other customers a bit more secure."

So what is he saying? That CF fertiliser plants were closed to protect GB domestic gas customers? Regardless of the knock on effect to GB farm to plate mantra, which the NFU are so keen to push?

* Dieter Helm, Oxford University.

 

Happy

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Location
Scotland
So do you shut off your contact by upsetting them or play the game?

What have they achieved from that approach with him to date?

Their lack of action in getting any sort of positive message out there about ruminant, grazed grassland and carbon cycle shows how useless they are.

Same at ground level regards Red Tractor.
Never used to agree with the old No Effing Use joke but their inaction on both these fronts show just how hopeless they are on huge issues, never mind small matters.
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
What have they achieved from that approach with him to date?

Their lack of action in getting any sort of positive message out there about ruminant, grazed grassland and carbon cycle shows how useless they are.

Same at ground level regards Red Tractor.
Never used to agree with the old No Effing Use joke but their inaction on both these fronts show just how hopeless they are on huge issues, never mind small matters.
Anyone hear Christine Tacon on R4 this morning glorifying Red Tractor ?
 

Clive

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
She is very good at this kind of thing, a skilled speaker and presenter indeed

I would rather see some action from her though on things she can change rather than endlessly talking sbout things she can not

I’m sure she mentioned equality to imports last night ……….. something the NFU have actively obstructed for Uk cereal growers through their support of farm level assurance / red tractor - I would have loved to have been in the audience and asked about that !

Hypocrite
 
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Top cereal and oilseed growers honoured at the Yield Enhancement Network Awards 2021

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Despite an average growing year for most crops, many growers managed to go above and beyond their predicted max yields, with Lincolnshire grower Tim Lamyman taking the top spots for his wheat yields and his world record breaking winter barley yield.

The highest cereal and oilseed yields achieved at harvest 2021 were announced at this year’s Yield Enhancement Network (YEN) Awards on Wednesday 24th November at the Croptec Show. With award presentations by Tom Bradshaw, Vice President of NFU, 24 farms took home the evening’s top awards for highest yield and highest potential yield achieved for wheat, winter and spring barley, oats, and oilseed. The 2021 winners came from all corners of the UK, as well as from as far afield as Finland and New Zealand.

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