Mixing livestock Gaurdians

[HC4B]

I was wondering, let's say a homesteader had a mixed pasture of goats and sheep, maybe a cow or some chickens, and they're having some issues with local dogs attacking flerd( flock+ herd).

They decide to get livestock Gaurdians for their flerd, and they havr access to both dogs and llamas. They don't want to use donkeys, and they don't have access to geese. Can the herd have both dogs and a llama for protection? Is it overkill? Would the dogs the llama get into spats?

 

[Al R]

Fence it right and nothing will get in...
How many animals and where in the country?

Get rid of the attackers.

 

[unlacedgecko]

Fence it right and nothing will get in...
How many animals and where in the country?

Get rid of the attackers.

From the language he's in the US. Regen ag, particularly over there, is big on not killing predators as they keep down prey/grazing competitors.

OP there's limited guardian experience here. You'd be better if trying Twitter.

 

[HC4B]

I'm actually from Scotland, Uk, and I've tried Reddit to no avail, so yeag maybe I'll try twitter next. Thanks

 

[HC4B]

In Scotland the main threats are foxes, badgers and mostddangerously stray dogs. But potentially in the next while, because of natures conventionists and the lumber farmers up north, they want to re introduce big huge predators to control the dear and rabbit population that have gone out of control. Hundreds of years ago, across all of Britain, the king personally ensured that all predators were made instinct. To bring back balance, they want to bring in Beavers, Bears, wildboar and worst all, the grey wolf. This is all to the dismay of livestock farmers.

 

[unlacedgecko]

There’s plenty of Scottish experience here.

With right to roam and public access you’ll have a hell of a struggle using LGD.

 

[Blaithin]

I’m sure it would be doable but you would need the right animals.

LGDs should be fine with llamas but if you’ve got llamas from guardian lines then their job is to not like dogs... you’d have to work to get them to accept your dogs. Even then it might not work. When there’s coyotes in my field and the dogs are fighting them, my cows are just as likely to chase my dogs as the coyotes. They don’t seem to distinguish between the coyotes and the dogs they’re fine with the rest of the time. Any canine is free game.

Is there a reason you’d need two different species as guardians in the same field?

I could see it working in an instance of say having the LGDs around the home place so you can keep them contained and then having llamas in any satellite pastures that aren’t secure enough for dogs.

 

[som farmer]

when we had problems with walkers and gates left open, I bought some longhorn cows and calves, the texas l/horns had nice, forward pointing, sharp horns, ended the gate problem overnight. they would have seen anything off if it got to close to their calves !

 

[Bob the beef]

Where exactly in Scotland are you?
Think you might be overthinking it slightly. There is a discussion up here regarding reintroducing wolves etc, but it is only that, a discussion. Not likely to come to much. The government is far happier letting the public loose into the rural areas than letting large predators run wild, and the two don't mix well in a small country.
Foxes , mink and badgers are your main problem, and as said above, good fencing and animal management will be your best ally.