Mocha wagtail slurry spreader

[Chips]

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Got one told by castle agri it will just fit on to my major , not so, far from it , had to get 6 in extension made but works brillant

Must be different to mine , as it just bolted and clamped on once I had cut the old support off

 

[Chips]

Spreading at 12 metres today with it two width settings down ! Spreading into covers fat too strong but needs must and it's doing an incredible job compared to what a splash plate would do with regard to leaf contamination

 

[Davy]

What makes it turn fron side to side? Does the slurry push It?

 

[Mike6120]

Does the slurry come out any faster or slower than it would using a splash plate? I mean, if you emptied a load with this, and then drove alongside with a splash plate for the next load, would you have travelled any further with either?

 

[Chips]

What makes it turn fron side to side? Does the slurry push It?

Yes, all done by the slurry

 

[Chips]

Does the slurry come out any faster or slower than it would using a splash plate? I mean, if you emptied a load with this, and then drove alongside with a splash plate for the next load, would you have travelled any further with either?

Yes about 20% quicker emptying , I have a smaller model as I underestimated my pump size, I think if you get the larger one it would be 30% quicker

 

[Chips]

 

[beaconsboy]

So can we all say you are all happy with your mocha plates. Are the laws going to ban these. Or should i buy one. They do look good. Whats the delivery time on them please

 

[Mursal]

We cant use a plate in any environmental schemes, not sure elsewhere.

 

[Chips]

I have argued the case at the NFU DEIG meetings about these swivel spreaders and The head advisor of the EA is going to look into it , he said that pulse spreading is allowed due to the large droplet principal and so there is a case to permit the Moscha possibly on the same principal .

 

[Half Pipe]

How do they cope with thick slurry?

 

[Iogijones]

How do they cope with thick slurry?

I still does a good job on thick slurry, sometime you need to clean the swivel as a bit of silage goes between that slows the swivel down.

 

[daijd]

I have argued the case at the NFU DEIG meetings about these swivel spreaders and The head advisor of the EA is going to look into it , he said that pulse spreading is allowed due to the large droplet principal and so there is a case to permit the Moscha possibly on the same principal .

Thought I’d reprise this thread to see if anyone since last post has heard anything if these will be banned in future?

Also is there any values to the saving in emmissions compared to splash plate and trailing shoe?

Thanks

 

[Speedstar]

yes think they will be banned in the next 2 or 3 years if not sooner, if you want make the best use of your slurry get a trailing shoe

 

[ollie989898]

I don't think you can beat a dribble bar provided you aren't crawling along laying carpets of the stuff. Keep forward speed up.

 

[Chips]

Thought I’d reprise this thread to see if anyone since last post has heard anything if these will be banned in future?

Also is there any values to the saving in emmissions compared to splash plate and trailing shoe?

Thanks

 

[Chips]

yes think they will be banned in the next 2 or 3 years if not sooner, if you want make the best use of your slurry get a trailing shoe

Trouble is it's long been proven that the savings in nitrogen of a trailing shoe over a splash plate would never cover the cost of purchasing a trailing shoe let alone the additional running costs , where as the moscha is very cheap to buy and actually lowers the spreading costs over a splash plate due to faster emptying and wider spreading . I have the spread width shut down on my Moscha so as not to splash off the rear filler arm and yet it still easily spreads 14 metres wide perfectly evenly , where as a trailing shoe would only cover 6 metres and take a lot more fuel to pull and weight to compact the soil due to needing a far bigger tractor .

 

[Speedstar]

Trouble is it's long been proven that the savings in nitrogen of a trailing shoe over a splash plate would never cover the cost of purchasing a trailing shoe let alone the additional running costs , where as the moscha is very cheap to buy and actually lowers the spreading costs over a splash plate due to faster emptying and wider spreading . I have the spread width shut down on my Moscha so as not to splash off the rear filler arm and yet it still easily spreads 14 metres wide perfectly evenly , where as a trailing shoe would only cover 6 metres and take a lot more fuel to pull and weight to compact the soil due to needing a far bigger tractor .

this is not the case in the trails we have done over the last few year the extra in grass yield soon pays for the cost of the trailing shoe

 

[will86]

yes think they will be banned in the next 2 or 3 years if not sooner, if you want make the best use of your slurry get a trailing shoe

Just looking at how the mosha works, you soon realise why it would possibly be banned, throwing slurry left to right at up to2 meters in height, very prone to wind as well

 

[Chips]

Just looking at how the mosha works, you soon realise why it would possibly be banned, throwing slurry left to right at up to2 meters in height, very prone to wind as well

Yes , prone to high wind , but big droplets mean most off the ammonia is contained within the droplet due to low % surface area , unlike high pressure splash plate which makes a fine mist of slurry . Also splash plate drives the grass over making a canopy that the slurry can't penetrate , where as with the moscha the slurry drops nearly vertically meaning most slurry will get straight to the soil and be protected by the still vertical canopy of grass in most swards . Thanks to the coverage over the whole of the field and not just the 20% which dribble bars achieve or injectors the actual concentration of slurry is only 1/5th of that of the latter and thus will absorb much quicker . If you calculate spot rate ammonia emmisions the trailing shoe will win but keep measuring for a week and the difference equals out , then when you add in the much smaller emissions from the tractor and the moscha wins , after all the reason we don't want ammonia emissions is due to the small particles just like with diesel .
The biggest difference in ammonia emissions from slurry spreading is the conditions when spreading , this has more of an effect than even the method of application , given the cost of injectors etc the job increasingly ends up with contractors meaning timing and conditions will be down to when the contractors can get there , the moscha on the other hand is so cheap it means farmers can carry on spreading with their small tractors as and when they want to suit conditions with a tractor sub 5 tons