molases on cereals

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Crops & Agronomy' started by juke, Apr 3, 2017.

  1. juke

    juke Member

    I vaguely recall a discussion a while back on here regarding the application of molasses onto the growing cereal crop, could the wiser folk on here tell me the benefits from doing this, roughly the sort of rates needed, and the best sort of molasses to run through the sprayer.... thanks in advance.
     
  2. Simon C

    Simon C Member

    Location:
    Essex Coast
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  3. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
  4. Simon C

    Simon C Member

    Location:
    Essex Coast
    £636 for 1000 lt IBC, got it through Mike Harrington last year.
     
  5. dontknowanything

    Location:
    Cambridge
    Is it any good?
     
  6. Simon C

    Simon C Member

    Location:
    Essex Coast
    Smells nice.

    Not sure I have the means to quantify the reduction in organic matter degradation which could be attributed to using it, so am afraid I can't answer you properly.
     
  7. dontknowanything

    Location:
    Cambridge
    Their website shows some dramatic differences on treated crops
     
  8. Simon C

    Simon C Member

    Location:
    Essex Coast
    I think they use some very high rates, only viable on high value crops.
     
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  9. parker

    parker Member

    Location:
    south staffs
    I am using it this year, mixes really well , going at 3% .
     
  10. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    is it just molasses or anything else in it ? seems that as son as molasses is sold to an arable farmer the price rises over what it costs as an animal feed ?

    any livestock guys here ? what do you pay for feed molasses ?
     
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  11. AF Salers

    AF Salers Member

    Location:
    York, UK
    Feed molasses is approximately 34p/lt delivered to me in ibc's @Clive , but I am having to pay more to get triple filtered molasses for putting in with the liquid fert
     
  12. Clive

    Clive Staff Member

    Location:
    Lichfield
    are you using cane or beet molasses ?

    I have always used cane as told that beat molasses will block nozzels
     
  13. AF Salers

    AF Salers Member

    Location:
    York, UK
    Triple filtered cane from ED & F Man. No problems through the sprayer yet, not done any through the drill, though someone else got some at the same time and not having any problems with it.
     
  14. agroman

    agroman New Member

    benefit is to stimulate soil biology by feeding the bugs and improve soil health. cost of LCBF-Boost (proven formula with high-carbon sugars/ yeasts etc) is £636/1000 litres, so 20L/ha is £12.72/ha. see www.qlfagronomy.co.uk
     
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  15. agroman

    agroman New Member

    Yes, I took the pics and saw it first hand. farmers left missed strips; the results speak for themselves.
     
  16. dontknowanything

    Location:
    Cambridge
    Can I see the yield data?
     
  17. parker

    parker Member

    Location:
    south staffs
    Boost as far as I am led to believe is a little more than just molasses
    Gary Zimmer has a lot of involvement with the formulation of the product, it has been tested at Wisconsin University over the last 7 yrs with impressive results, I had a really good meeting with a chap from qlf from the states last year which did win me over to the product , so I am looking forward to my own results this year.
     
  18. agroman

    agroman New Member

    the farmer was unable to do any weighing at harvest time (had to keep the AD plant going); weighed yield of 18.7t/ac with well-formed cobs. Harper Ag (CERC) maize results on qlfagronomy website.
     
  19. dontknowanything

    Location:
    Cambridge
    So wen you say "the results speak for themselves", which results are you referring to? :scratchhead:
     
  20. wellingtonfarmer

    Location:
    Herefordshire
    I have molale which is cane molasses I believe cost £140/t

    What rate would you put it on at? I'm abit worried about sticking it in the sprayer!
     

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