molases on cereals

Simon Chiles

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View attachment 662358 About £1.30/kg. What rate anyone?
More than you think. I calculated that I needed 50kg on 8ha in one pass. It’s not a cheap way to feed the bacteria, there are much cheaper options out there but I’m doing a few experiments and needed to know exactly what I was putting on without having extra ingredients to mess up the results. I’ve been a bit busy lately but need to get out tomorrow with the sap Nitrate tester.
 

York

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have been offline for some time.
as always the "dosage determins if it is benefitial or harmfull".
the Sugar is used as a trigger, spark. once the motor is roling it will be almost like a perpetual mobile.
Not to forget, S is need in this motor as S is a major bulding block for true protein.
York-Th.
 

Northdowns Martin

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Coming to think molasses doesn’t help against scorch. Due to the way the season has panned out, I have split liquid N into 3 equal splits (3 x 80kg) Second application scotched badly my fault as backed into corner and applied in too stronger wind, 3rd time through 5lt/ha molasses, applied on a still late afternoon/evening with low pressure, result more scorch. Wondering it sugar is causing fert to stick to leaves.
 

York

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Coming to think molasses doesn’t help against scorch. Due to the way the season has panned out, I have split liquid N into 3 equal splits (3 x 80kg) Second application scotched badly my fault as backed into corner and applied in too stronger wind, 3rd time through 5lt/ha molasses, applied on a still late afternoon/evening with low pressure, result more scorch. Wondering it sugar is causing fert to stick to leaves.[/QUOTE]
Put your fingers into the can of molasses and rub against each other. that is your answer.
Farmers approach to find a answer.
York-Th.
 
Coming to think molasses doesn’t help against scorch. Due to the way the season has panned out, I have split liquid N into 3 equal splits (3 x 80kg) Second application scotched badly my fault as backed into corner and applied in too stronger wind, 3rd time through 5lt/ha molasses, applied on a still late afternoon/evening with low pressure, result more scorch. Wondering it sugar is causing fert to stick to leaves.
There are certain mixes that should be used with liquid N, i used copper once - scorched bad - then used a cu mn zn chelate 3-2-1 - an no scorch

http://www.agspec.net/portfolio/all-rapisol-products/

I only use fan nozzles so i am leaf applying versus soil applying - there is a difference. 100L of water HA - never more than 20-30 L ha of N at 42%.

The trick part is - calculation, 20L of liquid N is stuff all units - but going through the leaf its 7 times more effective than roots.

I am a big fan of leaf applications for part of the N needs as it saves cooking the dirt with urea...IMO.

Cheers, Ant
 

H.Jackson

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West Sussex
Joel Williams had trials results showing 5 kg/ha of foliar applied urea was equivalent to 20 Kg/ha of soil applied N, also said that if Nickel deficient an application of nickel should increase urase production by the plant and make this even more efficient.
 
I would second that, ive always appliead UAN through leaf and grown good crops off less N than they recommend, abd soil test show by N level us still same so im not mining it either.

Its 7 times more effecient through the leaf versus roots.

Ant...
 

York

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D-Berlin
Joel Williams had trials results showing 5 kg/ha of foliar applied urea was equivalent to 20 Kg/ha of soil applied N, also said that if Nickel deficient an application of nickel should increase urase production by the plant and make this even more efficient.
good point.
Now did he also share with you what:
- happens when you apply Ni when there is no need of Ni
- share the recomended levels in tissue of Ni so you cna use tissue samples for monitoring if you have a need of Ni? Becuse of pont above.
york-Th.
 

DieselRob

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North Yorkshire
Has anyone got any real farm results they would share for L-CBF Boost? Anyone seeing benefits from yr1 or does repeated use year on year show bigger improvements?
 
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Could a ‘Meat Tax’ be on the cards in the UK?

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Written by Richard Halleron from Agriland

The latest machination coming from the so-called ‘opinion formers’, who seem to have the ear of government advisors in London, is the introduction of a ‘Meat Tax’ at consumer level.

This approach, it is argued, would have the combined impact of reducing meat consumption levels (I can really see the health benefits coming through now), while also helping to reduce the overall carbon footprint of production agriculture.

What absolute drivel! In my opinion, none of this makes sense at any level. This is a scurrilous and unfounded attack on livestock farming in this part of the world.

Yet, it has to be taken seriously. I make this point because economists at Rothamsted Research have already crunched the numbers where the introduction of a ‘UK...
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