molases on cereals

[Simon Chiles]

View attachment 662358 About £1.30/kg. What rate anyone?

More than you think. I calculated that I needed 50kg on 8ha in one pass. It’s not a cheap way to feed the bacteria, there are much cheaper options out there but I’m doing a few experiments and needed to know exactly what I was putting on without having extra ingredients to mess up the results. I’ve been a bit busy lately but need to get out tomorrow with the sap Nitrate tester.

 

[York]

have been offline for some time.
as always the "dosage determins if it is benefitial or harmfull".
the Sugar is used as a trigger, spark. once the motor is roling it will be almost like a perpetual mobile.
Not to forget, S is need in this motor as S is a major bulding block for true protein.
York-Th.

 

[Northdowns Martin]

Coming to think molasses doesn’t help against scorch. Due to the way the season has panned out, I have split liquid N into 3 equal splits (3 x 80kg) Second application scotched badly my fault as backed into corner and applied in too stronger wind, 3rd time through 5lt/ha molasses, applied on a still late afternoon/evening with low pressure, result more scorch. Wondering it sugar is causing fert to stick to leaves.

 

[York]

Coming to think molasses doesn’t help against scorch. Due to the way the season has panned out, I have split liquid N into 3 equal splits (3 x 80kg) Second application scotched badly my fault as backed into corner and applied in too stronger wind, 3rd time through 5lt/ha molasses, applied on a still late afternoon/evening with low pressure, result more scorch. Wondering it sugar is causing fert to stick to leaves.[/QUOTE]
Put your fingers into the can of molasses and rub against each other. that is your answer.
Farmers approach to find a answer.
York-Th.

 

[The Ruminant]

( & thanks for pointing me to this forum via another one )

So @TelesnaAg Ant’s to blame is he......

 

[RTK Farmer]

Bought 10 tons @ 720lts/ton del in bulk £180/ton
http://www.gpfeeds.co.uk/analysis/molaferm30.htm
Will be trying with liquid N at fungicide mixes.

 

[TelesnaAg]

So @TelesnaAg Ant’s to blame is he......

What have i done now!!! I am always in the sh*t, just the level varies.

Ant...

 

[TelesnaAg]

Coming to think molasses doesn’t help against scorch. Due to the way the season has panned out, I have split liquid N into 3 equal splits (3 x 80kg) Second application scotched badly my fault as backed into corner and applied in too stronger wind, 3rd time through 5lt/ha molasses, applied on a still late afternoon/evening with low pressure, result more scorch. Wondering it sugar is causing fert to stick to leaves.

There are certain mixes that should be used with liquid N, i used copper once - scorched bad - then used a cu mn zn chelate 3-2-1 - an no scorch

http://www.agspec.net/portfolio/all-rapisol-products/

I only use fan nozzles so i am leaf applying versus soil applying - there is a difference. 100L of water HA - never more than 20-30 L ha of N at 42%.

The trick part is - calculation, 20L of liquid N is stuff all units - but going through the leaf its 7 times more effective than roots.

I am a big fan of leaf applications for part of the N needs as it saves cooking the dirt with urea...IMO.

Cheers, Ant

 

[TelesnaAg]

Does anyone actually have yield comparison data for these products ???

theres som many variables in soil and growing conbditions - any advertised gain may not equate on your farm...only one way to find out is making the effort to try - which is painful as i am always trialling - this year i am trialling spring sown vetch.

Ant...

 

[H.Jackson]

Joel Williams had trials results showing 5 kg/ha of foliar applied urea was equivalent to 20 Kg/ha of soil applied N, also said that if Nickel deficient an application of nickel should increase urase production by the plant and make this even more efficient.

 

[TelesnaAg]

I would second that, ive always appliead UAN through leaf and grown good crops off less N than they recommend, abd soil test show by N level us still same so im not mining it either.

Its 7 times more effecient through the leaf versus roots.

Ant...

 

[York]

Joel Williams had trials results showing 5 kg/ha of foliar applied urea was equivalent to 20 Kg/ha of soil applied N, also said that if Nickel deficient an application of nickel should increase urase production by the plant and make this even more efficient.

good point.
Now did he also share with you what:
- happens when you apply Ni when there is no need of Ni
- share the recomended levels in tissue of Ni so you cna use tissue samples for monitoring if you have a need of Ni? Becuse of pont above.
york-Th.

 

[H.Jackson]

Should a read as if tissue test showed nickel deficiency, assuming that as Nickel is heavy it's also good a locking nutrients up?

 

[Fuzzy]

Just ordered some L-CBF Boost from QLF direct. £640 for 1000 litres. Will leave some untreated tramlines to compare.

how did this work out for you ?

 

[jack6480]

What about putting sugar on with a slug pelleter?

 

[Brisel]

What about putting sugar on with a slug pelleter?

Beet pulp pellets? I hope you're not thinking of emptying 1 kg bags of granular into a hopper & expecting it to fly 24m... Besides, it's better through the leaf instead of via the soil.

 

[Fuzzy]

how did this work out for you ?

@Shropshire Farmer did you see any yield improvement with this product ?

 

[DieselRob]

Has anyone got any real farm results they would share for L-CBF Boost? Anyone seeing benefits from yr1 or does repeated use year on year show bigger improvements?

 

[jack6480]

Has anyone got any real farm results they would share for L-CBF Boost? Anyone seeing benefits from yr1 or does repeated use year on year show bigger improvements?

What improvements would you like to see

 

[DieselRob]

What improvements would you like to see

Well yield wouldn’t be a bad 1!