Mole Drainage

Farmer_Joe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
ha ha i would need 1000 hp crawler to use that on my land,

plus it would then just bend and smash it!

my dad famously used a howard para plough in one field got about 10m and every shear bolt snapped, he then put in high tensile bolts and bent a leg...

im very lucky that alot of the land here is drained, old stone drains, horse shoe clays, std clays upto modern perforated generally i just repair failed areas.

depending on what your land quite specifically is like would depend on what will work, i imagine the best solution if you could pull a single leg plough would be to modify it to take as above even 60mm perforated drainage to the ditches, even smaller would work. its really not to dear in big coils.

as for pulling could easily attach 2 tractors in tandem.
 

Blue.

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Livestock Farmer
ha ha i would need 1000 hp crawler to use that on my land,

plus it would then just bend and smash it!

my dad famously used a howard para plough in one field got about 10m and every shear bolt snapped, he then put in high tensile bolts and bent a leg...

im very lucky that alot of the land here is drained, old stone drains, horse shoe clays, std clays upto modern perforated generally i just repair failed areas.

depending on what your land quite specifically is like would depend on what will work, i imagine the best solution if you could pull a single leg plough would be to modify it to take as above even 60mm perforated drainage to the ditches, even smaller would work.

as for pulling could easily attach 2 tractors in tandem.
Half my land would be the same,running a normal single leg mole plough full depth 1st would surely help,or possibly a vibration unit.
 

Banana Bar

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Arable Farmer
Location
Bury St Edmunds
So….. question from someone who has come of chalk down land that never really needed draining. We are now living in central France with some very different ground to what I have been used to. During the winter the ground quickly water logs and takes a long time to dry in the spring. The farm is rented and the landlord highly unlikely to pay for drainage. I am not I clin3d to pay for it either. I have no experience of mole ploughing but was wondering if it would provide a low cost solution to my problem? I know it would need redoing every few years but on a rotational basis that is ok. My question is does it work? I keep reading on here that it is for going over the top of proper drains, does it work as a stand alone solution on a temporary basis and if so how temporary is temporary?
If you have drains with stone above you’ll be fine ( if you know where they are ). If you have land that isn’t drained you’ll make it work, if you have land with un mapped drains you’re stuffed.
 
Big crawler be best
I totally agree, however, the future Mrs Britton is being a little sensitive about capital expenditure seeing as we are trying to buy a farm currently 😂. If you happen to know the whereabouts of a tidy fully functioning suitable machine and could perhaps get Pete to nip it down to central France on his day off then I may be able to persuade her to a modest out lay. Hypothetically what would one be looking at financially for such a machine, just so that I can start the buttering up process gently 😂
 

Kevtherev

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Location
Welshpool Powys
I totally agree, however, the future Mrs Britton is being a little sensitive about capital expenditure seeing as we are trying to buy a farm currently 😂. If you happen to know the whereabouts of a tidy fully functioning suitable machine and could perhaps get Pete to nip it down to central France on his day off then I may be able to persuade her to a modest out lay. Hypothetically what would one be looking at financially for such a machine, just so that I can start the buttering up process gently 😂
Have a look on fenland tractors website
Plus Pete hasn’t returned yet so don’t know when he’s back…
 

Lincsman

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Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Is there anypoint draining clay without back fill , how do moles work then ? Not saying that is clay mind , I dig and crush my own stone and have my own digger , just have to buy pipe , s
If its at all heavy, and sounds like it is put stone in, you cannot add it later, even if it means only half the number of runs for the same cost. To cheapen it you can go at 40M spacing and come back in a few years and put another run between them.

I always drop each run into a ditch rather than a main pipe now so they can be jetted in future and made like new again.
 

Farmer_Joe

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Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
I totally agree, however, the future Mrs Britton is being a little sensitive about capital expenditure seeing as we are trying to buy a farm currently 😂. If you happen to know the whereabouts of a tidy fully functioning suitable machine and could perhaps get Pete to nip it down to central France on his day off then I may be able to persuade her to a modest out lay. Hypothetically what would one be looking at financially for such a machine, just so that I can start the buttering up process gently 😂
That defiantly changes the perspective, i would not be doing anything if you hope to buy soon what's the point.
 

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