Moocall falling off

[S J H]

Has anyone else had this problem? Had it a couple of times last year, but thought I'd not tightened it enough.

Put it on Saturday, as tight as I could, then come in this morning to find £200 plus £109 subscription charge laying in the shite luckily it was in the scrape passage and not trod into the bedding.

 

[Henarar]

have you got the spiky rubber cushion in place properly ?

 

[ajcc]

Clean it up and fiddle with it maybe the ratchet is not engaging properly? Least ways that happened to me last week after 3 of us spent 20 mins. In the dark last week amidst fifty cattle in straw yard searching with torches! I bought new ratchet but the original looks ok after clean and lube.... little spring too little?
Really wants to bleep/or have a locate feature cos I've lost it several times but so far been lucky £300 makes you search pretty hard!

 

[S J H]

Thanks for the replies, yes the pad is all there, the first time I had it fall off the plastic that holds the pad in broke, so I had to send it back. I'll try and clean up the ratchet. How high up the tail do you put them? All I can think is that I'm putting it too low.

 

[JP1]

How much are the year 2 text costs out of interest?

 

[Henarar]

How much are the year 2 text costs out of interest?

all in the subscription charge

 

[JP1]

all in the subscription charge

It was a genuine question and I thought it was more in year 2?

 

[Henarar]

Thanks for the replies, yes the pad is all there, the first time I had it fall off the plastic that holds the pad in broke, so I had to send it back. I'll try and clean up the ratchet. How high up the tail do you put them? All I can think is that I'm putting it too low.

you put them next to the do-dabbley I do them up till I just cant move them with one hand, this is the biggest problem with them getting them the right tightness, if you get them to tight they will irritate the cow and she may set the thing off or rub till she gets the thing off

 

[Henarar]

It was a genuine question and I thought it was more in year 2?

sorry red that wrong I think its the same but I can't remember we paid a few more quid for another year warranty

 

[GenuineRisk]

We had one for a while but drove us both nuts. Partly because ped Blues love lice (thin skinned, so get itchy) too much. All ours love (in spite of regular applications of Spot On, I might add) to back up to a corner for a good scritch and we found the Moocall on the floor more than once. For us, because we tend to have batches of calvers due around same time because they're ETs, we'd have to have several on, so expensive.

I really, genuinely prefer the CCTV system (especially as now have sooper-dooper, newly installed AgriCamera one!) because I get to know my in calver's behaviour patterns quickly. Yes, I do have to wake up a couple of times a night come calving or foaling but I don't even need an alarm when sitting up - just go on auto pilot somehow! With the new system, even Pip at Surrey Uni can do the odd night covering, so it's not as onerous as it used to be.

Slightly different re horses, I am considering a foaling alarm system as have four due this spring, three are maidens so they will be time intensive for sure. But of course Moocall works well for the majority for sure but i would be worried I'd miss that upside down, back to front calf which can't engage properly so giving heifer wrong signals and no tail up. Had those in the past and it's only because her behaviour pattern is different that my own alarm bells rang.

 

[ajcc]

£100/year for annual fee, first year free in purchase price (200)

 

[Henarar]

We had one for a while but drove us both nuts. Partly because ped Blues love lice (thin skinned, so get itchy) too much. All ours love (in spite of regular applications of Spot On, I might add) to back up to a corner for a good scritch and we found the Moocall on the floor more than once. For us, because we tend to have batches of calvers due around same time because they're ETs, we'd have to have several on, so expensive.

I really, genuinely prefer the CCTV system (especially as now have sooper-dooper, newly installed AgriCamera one!) because I get to know my in calver's behaviour patterns quickly. Yes, I do have to wake up a couple of times a night come calving or foaling but I don't even need an alarm when sitting up - just go on auto pilot somehow! With the new system, even Pip at Surrey Uni can do the odd night covering, so it's not as onerous as it used to be.

Slightly different re horses, I am considering a foaling alarm system as have four due this spring, three are maidens so they will be time intensive for sure. But of course Moocall works well for the majority for sure but i would be worried I'd miss that upside down, back to front calf which can't engage properly so giving heifer wrong signals and no tail up. Had those in the past and it's only because her behaviour pattern is different that my own alarm bells rang.

they are not the be all and end all but they are far cheaper than anything else I have seen on the market, other things will get cheaper and better though
just another string to your bow for now till something else comes along
we have had no problems with our ped blues with them but then we don't use bloody useless spot on, which is a waste of money IMHO
I have not noticed them scratching any more than anything else

In not to long I should think their will be something that will tell you what every one of your cows are up to every min of the day

 

[S J H]

It was a genuine question and I thought it was more in year 2?

First year included @JP1 then £109 annually thereafter.

 

[S J H]

you put them next to the do-dabbley I do them up till I just cant move them with one hand, this is the biggest problem with them getting them the right tightness, if you get them to tight they will irritate the cow and she may set the thing off or rub till she gets the thing off

We had one for a while but drove us both nuts. Partly because ped Blues love lice (thin skinned, so get itchy) too much. All ours love (in spite of regular applications of Spot On, I might add) to back up to a corner for a good scritch and we found the Moocall on the floor more than once. For us, because we tend to have batches of calvers due around same time because they're ETs, we'd have to have several on, so expensive.

I really, genuinely prefer the CCTV system (especially as now have sooper-dooper, newly installed AgriCamera one!) because I get to know my in calver's behaviour patterns quickly. Yes, I do have to wake up a couple of times a night come calving or foaling but I don't even need an alarm when sitting up - just go on auto pilot somehow! With the new system, even Pip at Surrey Uni can do the odd night covering, so it's not as onerous as it used to be.

Slightly different re horses, I am considering a foaling alarm system as have four due this spring, three are maidens so they will be time intensive for sure. But of course Moocall works well for the majority for sure but i would be worried I'd miss that upside down, back to front calf which can't engage properly so giving heifer wrong signals and no tail up. Had those in the past and it's only because her behaviour pattern is different that my own alarm bells rang.

Thanks for the help. Maybe I am putting it too tight as you both say. I'll try it again, I just worry about losing the bloody thing now.

 

[S J H]

Moocall for sale

 

[S J H]

you put them next to the do-dabbley I do them up till I just cant move them with one hand, this is the biggest problem with them getting them the right tightness, if you get them to tight they will irritate the cow and she may set the thing off or rub till she gets the thing off

If I put it higher up does the rivet on the back not irritate them?

 

[Sid]

Technology breeds laziness?

 

[Henarar]

If I put it higher up does the rivet on the back not irritate them?

higher up than where ?
those rivets need to be sorted out IMO its not a very good idea, we have had them break off, there must be a better way to hold the pad on

Tell them your problems with it go to moocall.com and click on the message icon in the bottom right corner and see what they come up with
There is also a guide to putting it on

 

[S J H]

higher up than where ?
those rivets need to be sorted out IMO its not a very good idea, we have had them break off, there must be a better way to hold the pad on

Tell them your problems with it go to moocall.com and click on the message icon in the bottom right corner and see what they come up with
There is also a guide to putting it on

Thanks for that, just watched them, I was putting it below the vulva, because I thought the back screw would irritate them.

 

[S J H]

Technology breeds laziness?

I think it stops skills from being passed on, same with breeding figures I still try and feel their bones, a friend reckons he can tell a cow within 12 hours so he moves them out of cubicles, but I don't seem to have got the feel for it yet.