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Moore / Sky Drill

Discussion in 'Direct Drilling Crops & Agronomy' started by Banana Bar, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Following discussion with others and not being around to witness Moore drills being used what are the differences if any between the Moore drill and Sky drill. Really like the look of the Sky but some say it’s just a green Moore and will be plagued with the same problems, what were they?

    BB
     
  2. Will Blackburn

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Lack of effective slot closure.
     
  3. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    And has this been resolved?
     
  4. Matt77

    Matt77 Member

    Location:
    Romney marsh
    Demo we had with their team wasn’t all that impressive, chap couldn’t get it very deep in nice soil, wanting wheat in after beans at 40mm for Avadex, he made hard work of it and to top it all when it came up it had 3 blocked coulters every run, only did a ton of seed. Seemed heavy enough....
     
  5. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    That doesn’t sound great. Has anyone else had this problem? Going to see a user soon for his advice but welcome all opinions.
     
  6. Will Blackburn

    Location:
    Cheshire
    I have a JD now, so I suppose it has been.
     
  7. On the other hand @scholland has had some tremendous results with his Moore. Sandy land and shallow seeded crops though
     
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  8. My opinion - it doesn't have more important engineering features than the 750 or the Weaving (lets say they're the UK's leading disc drill candidates at the moment, maybe add the Avatar). And in my opinion what it doesn't have makes all the difference (slot closing, seed firming, depth control next to seed boot)

    If you want to buy a drill go and meet some users on farm and see their crops, I think you would learn more than just an afternoon demo
     
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  9. Will Blackburn

    Location:
    Cheshire
    Yes stronger ground is the issue especially if the ground is drying and shrinking. Top notch example of the original Moore in Shetland, quite ballsy to cut and shut it.
     
  10. i dont belief it

    Location:
    North East
    Only problem with the Moore was seed depth drilled wheat at 50mm and could find seed anywhere between 15 & 50mm if it was drilled less than 50mm could find seed on top as for slot closing I would say it was one of the best hardly ever rolled afterwards. Have a sprinter now but the 15 year old Moore is still there if its needed.
     
  11. Richard III

    Richard III Member

    Location:
    CW5 Cheshire
    They might have altered the Sky but the old Moore was more like a cross between a tine and a low disturbance disc drill in the amount of soil moved. Autumn crop growth is noticeably slower behind my GD than it was the old Moore because of this and this effect can be good or bad depending on sowing date and season. I found slot closure usually very good the Moore in my soil conditions, but it would over compact in the wet, when a GD or 750a would still be operating happily.
     
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  12. scholland

    scholland Member

    Location:
    ze3
    I love my old moore, ideal for my land as you say.
    It continues to impress me.
     
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  13. scholland

    scholland Member

    Location:
    ze3
    Not really but thanks!
    Needs must and it was a fun job.
     
  14. Michael S

    Michael S Member

    Location:
    Matching Green
    I have been using a Moore, first 6m and now 8m, for over 25 years but predominately as a "conventional" drill but also tried no-till in various situations. Wheat after peas, spring rape, soya and stripped linseed generally very pleasing but on our soils, predominately heavy phase handslope and ragdale clays, cutting through chopped straw to establish either wheat or rape is something we never managed to do evenly and reliably.
     
  15. moretimeforgolf

    Location:
    North Kent, UK
    If you want an alternative, how about Sly? They only had the coulter unit on display at Lamma but I was very impressed with the design - not seen it at work yet.
     
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  16. Banana Bar

    Banana Bar Member

    Location:
    Bury St Edmunds
    Had it in demo in the autumn.
     
  17. moretimeforgolf

    Location:
    North Kent, UK
    What was your verdict , or is too early to make a judgement?
     
  18. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    I would also be interested in your view in the Sly.

    @T Hectares 's neighbour has a Sky. There's one down the road from me & we share the same agronomist, so I'll see what I can find out. The disc angle is a bit less than the Moore but it's mostly the same as far as I can tell. The improvements are in the frame.
     
  19. T Hectares

    T Hectares Member

    Location:
    Berkshire
    Yes, my neighbours have one.
    They replaced an earlier Sulky version for it, the crops look very good behind it and slot closure isn’t an issue on the soil types here.
    The Sky seems a more substantial build than the Sulky and takes more hp to pull, the three hoppers and flexibility in where the products are placed seems to be the big advantage on one.
    Our flints do wear the discs pretty quickly but no different to any other disc drill in that respect, we are on very abrasive soils
     
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  20. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    From what you’ve seen of it, was the slot closure good enough?
     

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