Moore Unidrill instead of 750A/Avatar

Andrew K

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Location
Essex
Most of the time we use the 2 inch spikes .( Added advantage of this is that they are picking up and throwing a fair amount of soil which ensures that all seed covered even though we are rigid 10m with no contour following. We tried the demo 8m simtech a few years ago but found that if using narrow points ,as on the simtech , with no contour following some seed gets left high and dry when drilling shallow.)
We also have threequarter inch narrow points but these are much longer and gap between seed boot and point is too large so some seed ends up not in the slot.We should really extend the boots but get on so well direct drilling with the 2 inch spikes ( except in the spring in slubber or in heavy frosts when we cant penetrate ) that we have never bothered.
Thanks,
does the drill DD in most situations, or just lighter soil,lower trash fields?
 

Goldilocks

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Location
Oxfordshire
Thanks,
does the drill DD in most situations, or just lighter soil,lower trash fields?
Can dd in pretty well all situations apart from heavy frost and very wet conditions ( in the very wet it just peels a v notch ) ( We have very good high organic matter , friable topsoil , obviously would not work well in dry ,hard poor condition soils )Can cope with any amount of straw trash ( would be pretty confident it could not be bettered ) Have not tried it in green cover crop trash as we graze with sheep.Suspect the threequarter inch points would be best in this scenario.
 
How about this...
Looks good, does the drill have any camera's on it so the driver can see whats going on (im obviously talking about the set of coulters that have grabbed up the trash and stalled the press wheels) - it would be ideal on a drill this size to have the drone automatically following the tractor giving the view that it does sending it back down to the seat in real time but guess the drone wont be able to stay up that long?
 

Brisel

Member
Location
Dorset
How about this...
That's not a great advert for tine drills in high biomass situations! He's pulling half a tonne of cover crop along with those tines. That would have gone better if the cover crop had been sprayed off weeks earlier and died back pre drilling.

Is that Toby Baxter's setup?
 

Warnesworth

Member
Location
Chipping Norton
That's not a great advert for tine drills in high biomass situations! He's pulling half a tonne of cover crop along with those tines. That would have gone better if the cover crop had been sprayed off weeks earlier and died back pre drilling.

Is that Toby Baxter's setup?
Its probably on the limit of what it can cope with sensibly. I think the lack of soil here wan't helping either, very little for the roots to anchor to. Its also being drilled a month later than the original plan so there its a months extra biomass there. Its curious because it would only ball up like that in one direction. I thought it was lifting the tine out of work but it seems not to have been the case as plant counts show no difference.
I think early dessication would probably make it much worse as there would be no live roots anchoring the cover crop, also the soil would been much wetter at drilling.
 
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Warnesworth

Member
Location
Chipping Norton
Looks good, does the drill have any camera's on it so the driver can see whats going on (im obviously talking about the set of coulters that have grabbed up the trash and stalled the press wheels) - it would be ideal on a drill this size to have the drone automatically following the tractor giving the view that it does sending it back down to the seat in real time but guess the drone wont be able to stay up that long?
My drone can only stay afloat for 18-20 mins so not much use i'm afraid. The buildup didn't seem to affect the drilling.
 
I’d need an 8m one instead of a 6m because they need to go slower for good seed placement. I didn’t like the 8m demo I had this spring. Not good across slopes and IMO it wouldn’t cope with my stony ground well over time. Yielded 1 t/ha less than the Claydon.

I’ll see if there are any second hand ones about. Great concept though.
You gave the GD drill the knife because you lost 1 t. But did you also try the Avatar or 750A in the same conditions? If not, it seems strange to prefer some drills, that was not even compared. Maybe they would have lost 1,5 t or 0,5 t og added some +? t.
Strange way of logic in my view.
 

Brisel

Member
Location
Dorset
You gave the GD drill the knife because you lost 1 t. But did you also try the Avatar or 750A in the same conditions? If not, it seems strange to prefer some drills, that was not even compared. Maybe they would have lost 1,5 t or 0,5 t og added some +? t.
Strange way of logic in my view.
No other drills were available at the time for a comparison. If you read my post there were other reasons the drill didn't perform well.
 

ajd132

Member
Location
Suffolk
How about this...
That looks poor to be honest, is he drilling the same direction as the cover was planted? Tine drills work so much better in covers and big residue situations going the same direction. Our sprinter copes better than that as it hasn’t got all the firming wheels for stuff to get caught around.
 

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