Morbid question?

hel123

Member
Yes and there lies the problem with the stats.

There is a lot of these deaths because of lockdown, restrictions lack of treatment, cancelled services etc, but you can be fairly confident they test positive to coronavirus when they are in a hospital environment and therefore bundled in with the corona deaths how else can we realistacly explain where all the flu and pneumonia deaths have gone
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
If I were to die in a car accident, and Covid19 was found in my body, would it say on my death certificate that I died of Covid19 !!!!!!!! :scratchhead: :rolleyes::banghead:

I don't believe that they do post mortem Covid tests, so it would have to be in the situation that you'd had one in the previous 28 days. Statistically, that's very unlikely, but it is possible. From what I can see, around 16k people a week get a positive test, so roughly 1 in a thousand will have had one in the past 28 days (65-ish million population). Car crash deaths run at around 1500 a year for the UK (1:45k), but are probably down a bit with the reduced driving happening due to lockdown. So, if the one in a thousand Cv positive person had the one in 45 thousand fatal car accident, then yes they would go down as a Covid death.

It's not going to make a big difference to the statistics though, and even this analysis is way over-simplified, as for the first 14 days they shouldn't be in a car unless going to or from the test centre.
 

Mark C

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Location
Bedfordshire
A hell of a lot of over reporting of Covid has been done due to the lack of need for a Coroners report. A friend's mum died in her care home of natural causes, no covid in the home and she didn't have it. Cause of death Covid 19, because it saved an awful lot of work
 

JCMaloney

Member
Location
LE9 2JG
A death gets recorded as Covid if either a positive test has taken place OR it is noted on the DC.

What you get depends when, where and how you die. A lot of community deaths are getting Covid scribbled on them by the attending physician.

There is definitely some over reporting and it isn`t always evidenced by a test.
 

Bongodog

Member
Definitely lots of over reporting going on, one case chap admitted to hospital and tested on admission, he died before result came through, but Dr put covid on certificate anyway. Test result came back 2 days later negative. In regard to specific question, it would depend on what was found during the postmortem. Usually if they find a definitive cause such as heart failure or similar they don't take tissue or blood samples and then wait for the results. If they did blood tests I guess they might find the covid.
 

Lowland1

Member
Mixed Farmer
My Dad admitted to Lincoln hospital mid October with sepsis a week later tests positive for Covid moved to Louth Hospital where though without symptoms put into a Covid room a month later just as he is due to be released (discharged) he develops a temperature and has difficulty breathing he is moved to Grimsby with suspected pneumonia. When I rung yesterday I was told it’s Covid.
 

Agrivator

Member
A local doctor stated that they are instructed to put ''Covid'' as cause of death. So there must have been a vast overreporting of covid deaths.
 

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