More beef bashing.

Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Here's Patrick Moore, ex-Greenpeace who needs no introduction to many of us [so I'm starting the video after his early life story], talking a whole lot of sense about carbon emissions and the nonsense of religious zealots who preach the end of days due to their new Devil, carbon, which is the source of all life on Earth.


He has a very good book out, available to download or, if you are feeling flush, in paper form.

Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom​

Buy it here for 99p for Kindle or upwards of £16 on paper.
 

manhill

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Prepare for non_moo beef!
Israel growing real beef in laboratory from cells taken from cows. Looks like beef, tastes like beef and by golly, it is beef!
 

Treg

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
Government this morning actively encouraging more travel :unsure:
So we don't need to cut carbon emissions then? I'm confused :rolleyes:
 

J 1177

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Durham, UK
I just can’t take the threat of plastic meat seriously. In these days of heightened awareness of food origins, I can’t see it being particularly popular. Quorn’s a plant based meat substitute which has been available for decades and whilst I would suspect it has increased in popularity, it’s still very much a niche product.

The synthetic meat drive is not consumer driven. If people want meat, which I strongly suspect they still will, they’ll buy it.
A lass i went to school, proper townie tagged her other half in a facebook post about a steak night at a local pub, saying oooh weve got to go, looks lovely etc.
I cant see many people cooing over a quorn burger the same way
 
The world, not the earth, is alas like a great cash/power driven spinning top that is slowly losing speed and momentum and ever so slowly commencing to wobble before eventually crashing back down to earth.

If we can get rid of the cows first then the public will be glad to eat synthetic meat and will eventually forget what the real thing ever tasted like and then, when they get really hungry, they will eat any sh1te!

I have read tell that some folks are already eating horses, dogs, frogs, snails, rats, insects, and even guinea-pigs! :eek:
 
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JP1

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Livestock Farmer
Its bit ironic,
Head of a slaughter house company indicates we need to reduce meat production ??
Bit like the National (Feedlot) beef Association wanting to tax more natural ways of rearing cattle . Only interested in their self interests

Some farmshops seeking to publicise they have pork during the current pig rollover crisis The availability of pigmeat is not the issue just where's it's coming in from and the back log on our own farms (contracted but around 25% each batch not taken)
 

Ted M

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire
BBC News website currently has a link to let your work out the carbon footprint of your diet.

Apparently eating beef three times a week is far worse than having a daily glass of almond milk


I presume they just make up these figures?
Even if they don't, they're based on a flawed metric and they also quite happily forget not all foods are created equal.
Alters those figures somewhat if you have to eat 10 times more of the stuff.
 

Ted M

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Shropshire
I just can’t take the threat of plastic meat seriously. In these days of heightened awareness of food origins, I can’t see it being particularly popular. Quorn’s a plant based meat substitute which has been available for decades and whilst I would suspect it has increased in popularity, it’s still very much a niche product.

The synthetic meat drive is not consumer driven. If people want meat, which I strongly suspect they still will, they’ll buy it.
Quite right I think. I occasionally read some vegan tosh on social media. 9 out of 10 comments are telling them where to shove their plant based agenda.
 

Jsmith2211

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
Farming is too easy of a target, >1% of the population work as farmers. All this carbon stuff is money and power. Airline companies have lots of both, livestock farmers...? Also think from the govs point of view, airlines bring in far more tax money than farms do...
 

delilah

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Farming is too easy of a target, >1% of the population work as farmers. All this carbon stuff is money and power. Airline companies have lots of both, livestock farmers...? Also think from the govs point of view, airlines bring in far more tax money than farms do...

Our national representative bodies are awash with cash, the problem is that they are truly awful at using it to good advantage. Any publicity campaigns they run have clearly gone to the cheapest tender, or done in house, hence absolutely sh!te. We shouldn't be relying on farmers to put themselves in front of the camera, we should be spending cash on professionals. The problem with all of this is that the farmer mentality prevails, get the job done on the cheap. It might work for getting a job done on the farm, but it most definitely isn't working in the real world of getting your message across.
 

toquark

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Our national representative bodies are awash with cash, the problem is that they are truly awful at using it to good advantage. Any publicity campaigns they run have clearly gone to the cheapest tender, or done in house, hence absolutely sh!te. We shouldn't be relying on farmers to put themselves in front of the camera, we should be spending cash on professionals. The problem with all of this is that the farmer mentality prevails, get the job done on the cheap. It might work for getting a job done on the farm, but it most definitely isn't working in the real world of getting your message across.
To be honest, that mentality doesn't even work on jobs around the farm.
 

toquark

Member
Here's a question: who's going to stop you farming livestock? I mean even if 100% of the UK population goes vegan (which will never happen), there are still another 8bn people (11bn by 2050) around the world eating meat. In other words the market will still be there.

Unless the government start coming round actively culling or forbidding you to keep livestock, I think it'll always be there to some extent. Its up to us as to whether or not we want to farm it.
 

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quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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