More Winter Wheat or Spring Barley

John Bull

New Member
Location
Somerset
With the current price of nitrogen, what are the thoughts on drilling more winter wheat if the weather holds, now late November, more than likely looking at reduced yield 8t/h ish? we have tested seed in the shed we can dress.

OR

Spring Barley, been offered £190 ex November 2022 today, can be wet here into the Spring so unlikely to drill in February.
 

curlietailz

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Sedgefield
We’re having similar conversations here and have decided Spring Barley
We have about 10% of our area to drill and have pig muck to put on
So selling forward at £190 in my opinion will be better IF you don’t already have enough N on farm
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
I've put somemore wheat in today after beet and intend to put somemore in, in a fortnight after we've lifted somemore beet. Rightly or wrongly who knows but we'll see this time next year.

Muck ahead of barley after beet so will only need cwt or so of N and the rest can be put into the wheat🤷
 

Wigeon

Member
Arable Farmer
Having this dilemma on some failed wheat. Haven't got N, and am doubtful that wheat drilled now will come to much on the wet bits, so am going barley. That said I'm still mighty tempted to get the drill out!
 

Flintstone

Member
Location
Berkshire
I would seriously consider Spring wheat as well as/instead of Spring barley. Feed wheat price is so chunky, and you won’t be relying on premiums to keep your gross margin up, and there’s also a chance you’ll get a milling premium too, with no extra effort.

Input costs are low, and with the wet harvests we are having, it’s more weather tolerant than barley in August.

Also, your drilling window opens much earlier in the new year than with barley.

I agree that when wheat prices are around £130 and nitrogen is at £250, Spring wheat isn’t the best on paper. But in this current scenario, it’s pretty much at the top of the leaderboard if you’re thinking of what to plant from now on for H22.
 

ajd132

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Suffolk
I would seriously consider Spring wheat as well as/instead of Spring barley. Feed wheat price is so chunky, and you won’t be relying on premiums to keep your gross margin up, and there’s also a chance you’ll get a milling premium too, with no extra effort.

Input costs are low, and with the wet harvests we are having, it’s more weather tolerant than barley in August.

Also, your drilling window opens much earlier in the new year than with barley.

I agree that when wheat prices are around £130 and nitrogen is at £250, Spring wheat isn’t the best on paper. But in this current scenario, it’s pretty much at the top of the leaderboard if you’re thinking of what to plant from now on for H22.
Second this on spring wheat but only if you have a way to cheaply and easily deal with ergot I.e can use tonnage at a central store with colour sorters or perhaps have a really good cleaning facility at home. If you don’t then it will go as feed.
 
Second this on spring wheat but only if you have a way to cheaply and easily deal with ergot I.e can use tonnage at a central store with colour sorters or perhaps have a really good cleaning facility at home. If you don’t then it will go as feed.
spring wheat round here always full of ergot
but it is also a problem winter wheat for late sown or late open flowered varieties
 

Mixedupfarmer

Member
Location
Norfolk
I would seriously consider Spring wheat as well as/instead of Spring barley. Feed wheat price is so chunky, and you won’t be relying on premiums to keep your gross margin up, and there’s also a chance you’ll get a milling premium too, with no extra effort.

Input costs are low, and with the wet harvests we are having, it’s more weather tolerant than barley in August.

Also, your drilling window opens much earlier in the new year than with barley.

I agree that when wheat prices are around £130 and nitrogen is at £250, Spring wheat isn’t the best on paper. But in this current scenario, it’s pretty much at the top of the leaderboard if you’re thinking of what to plant from now on for H22.
Ergot
Edit: @ajd132 beat me to it.
 

BRBX

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
nottingham
Same issue here , skyfall in the bin , beet lift jan -feb , layer muck to go on then drill with what . Last years late skyfall had bit of ergot but even a bit is too much
 

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