Most PROFITABLE suckler cow breed!!!

[Bossfarmer]

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Plus what you like working with .

just curious, i find the simmental the quietest to work with and no bother for getting charolais calves out of

 

[Bossfarmer]

Whatever you can get hold of from a TB4 area from somebody reputable within a reasonable distance are also factors. There is a limit to how long you can spend going to markets or going to look at stock, listening to baloney and how clever people are and transporting them miles.

Which is why we just buy stirks and fatten them. Too much to do without the breeding malarkey.

The most profitable sucklers I ever bought were two very poor british white 3 year old small cows that they put on to make up a load. Each calved on its own to a white shorthorn bull for two years. I kept the calves as bulls as sold them fat at 13 months old about 520 kg. They wouldnt have won any prices in the christmas fatstock show but they made more profit for the little they ate and the little trouble they casued than any other beast i have ever kept since. Two very nice, lively little cows who were attentive good milking mothers.

what sort of age/price range do you get the stirks at? can be a lot of money to pay out each year for potentially wild/disease carrying cattle?

 

[Bossfarmer]

I'd go black Lims now given a choice. I find pure native mothers produce calves that get too fat before they get heavy enough here for some reason or maybe its becasue I feed too many oats.

why a black lim over a red?

 

[Bossfarmer]

Friesian or Holstein.

lot more work/costs?

 

[Bossfarmer]

A mix of hereford cross and aberdeen angus cross here. They do not eat too much or take much looking after and are out wintered. I have a hereford bull here this year as I fancy a go at producing black baldies.

can you get a big charolais calf out them for the store market?

 

[Granite Farmer]

The idea is to put the black baldies to a continental bull and sell the calves weaned before Christmas.

 

[Werzle]

plenty of muck from a 7 month winter, that not the point? that and the calf headage payments

I would spend less money buying the muck than i would keeping sucklers inside for seven months.

 

[Werzle]

why a black lim over a red?

Hardier

 

[Chae1]

Out of interest what breed do you find most profitable?

Are you coming up to the beef event next week?

https://www.scottishbeefassociation.co.uk/scotlands-beef-event/

 

[Bossfarmer]

Are you coming up to the beef event next week?

not sure yet, u?

 

[Nithsdale]

lot more work/costs?

On a lowland farm with a 7month winter??

Look at it like this;

You get a calf out of a suckler to sell once a year.

You get milk out of a dairy every single day.



Look at the investments/spending in the Beef and Dairy sectors, it's bloody obvious where the money is.

 

[Chae1]

not sure yet, u?

Doubtful, probably be spraying.

My brothers on panel, ask him some awkward questions if you come up!

 

[Bossfarmer]

On a lowland farm with a 7month winter??

Look at it like this;

You get a calf out of a suckler to sell once a year.

You get milk out of a dairy every single day.



Look at the investments/spending in the Beef and Dairy sectors, it's bloody obvious where the money is.

why are so many going out of the sector then?

 

[Top Tip.]

Charolais bull here onto either limmy,simmy,or Saler x cows.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Doubtful, probably be spraying.

My brothers on panel, ask him some awkward questions if you come up!

ill have plenty to ask if i get up, looks a big herd ive never considered salers i heard they were wild

 

[Bossfarmer]

Charolais bull here onto either limmy,simmy,or Saler x cows.

so of the 3 breeds you put the charolais to which performs best?

 

[Nithsdale]

why are so many going out of the sector then?

I'd say there's more going out of Beef

 

[livestock 1]

It’s worth mentioning that at the store sales Limousin cattle are selling as good as anything.

 

[Top Tip.]

so of the 3 breeds you put the charolais to which performs best?

The Saler will be the best but not a lot in it,it is as much to do with the individual cow as the breed. My heaviest calf at the moment will be out of an AA x Luing cow which I bought as a buller just because I liked the look of her.

 

[Nithsdale]

It’s worth mentioning that at the store sales Limousin cattle are selling as good as anything.

Nutters to work with, though.

Our stores are a lot quieter since switching to Simmy bulls