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Dukes Fit

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Aberdeenshire
As a fairly experienced road biker and racer, the best advice I can think of is get yourself a dirt bike for a year and give it a good thrashing.
You'll learn more about how a bike handles and how to make it move than you ever will be on a road bike. 95% of off-road riding can be transferred to road bikes and generally speaking it's safer and hurts less if you slide off on dirt than hitting the tarmac.
Riding a dirt bike exaggerates a lot of the behaviour of a road bike, things like weight transfer, the rear end sliding etc and going fast off road for a novice is doing 40mph not 140mph. Also low speed manoeuvres teach you excellent physical balance, and how to balance your clutch, brake and throttle together.
A gold wing etc is not a good first bike, to heavy and cumbersome

A good enduro bike to get would be something like a Yamaha WR 250, Honda XR 400, etc which can also be road registered
 

timmyboy

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Agree with some the points @JP1 made. Passing your test doesn't make you a good rider. Post test training is a must plus it will train you to be safer and get so much more enjoyment out of riding. Be it with Rospa or IAM,either are a great bunch of lads and ladies. As @roscoe erf says just do it.....but do it properly and stay safe. (y)
 

Johnnyboxer

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Location
Yorkshire
As an ex fire fighter (and ex biker) I'd like to convince you to not do it. It's not you so much as how vulnerable you are and especially as you have a young family.

It's not difficult but I would counsel you get a 125 bike for a while first.

IF you want to what I would really recommend is a series of post test pass courses with an advanced rider ideally ex Class 1 police. That's what I did and he really got my observational and defensive riding skills to another level.

Stay safe
Yep there are some Sportsbike nutters out there
One overtook me on Sunday on a B road, just before a brow in the road and missed the oncoming car by millimetres

I was high up in the truck and could see the car well before, but biker couldn't

I thought I might need the shovel
 

smcapstick

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Location
Kirkby Lonsdale
Yep there are some Sportsbike nutters out there
One overtook me on Sunday on a B road, just before a brow in the road and missed the oncoming car by millimetres

I was high up in the truck and could see the car well before, but biker couldn't

I thought I might need the shovel
Last summer, one buzzed my OH so close that she stopped and called me - I was twenty minutes behind her. She said he wobbled, like he wasn't in full control. It frightened the bejesus out of her.

He clearly caught the next car because when I got to him, he was crumpled up on the floor, dead as a door nail. A copper (one I used to go to school with, incidentally) was there, directing cars around the corpse. It was a Saturday so police were up and down that road all the time (it's near Devil's Bridge). His bike was about a hundred yards away.
 

Dukes Fit

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Location
Aberdeenshire
Just a track tool after I pretty much wrote it off:

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That's what a 100mph slide does on a track with ample run-off (mind you the Armco didn't help!). The same off on a road doesn't really bear thinking about.
Bet that heated up the arse sliding on the tarmac! I've been pretty lucky on the track with this current bike, haven't binned it yet but had a few long slides waiting for the back end to come back lol! I broke my ankle racing Supermoto years ago after a hero tried to follow me through after a pass.

I'm guessing Anglesey is your regular track? Keep meaning to get a track day booked down there as I've heard it's a good circuit.
 
on the subject of bikes,took a bike out a few weeks ago for test ride..bearing in mind i already own the same brand i was a little annoyed that i was only given a hour ride and someone had to come with me on another bike,plus the fact they even asked what bike i was currently riding,my reply of "i'll let you work that out as you sold it to me" was lost on the guy…today went to another brand dealership and they are letting me have their flagship bike for a whole day to do what i want with…my minds already made up
If you don't mind me asking what was it. After a demo I'm trying to sort a deal on this
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Although I love my Ducs, you seem to pay a premium for a lesser bike IMHO
 

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Bet that heated up the arse sliding on the tarmac! I've been pretty lucky on the track with this current bike, haven't binned it yet but had a few long slides waiting for the back end to come back lol! I broke my ankle racing Supermoto years ago after a hero tried to follow me through after a pass.

I'm guessing Anglesey is your regular track? Keep meaning to get a track day booked down there as I've heard it's a good circuit.
Was pushed wide on to the grass & the back went. All was good until the bike hit the Armco & barrel rolled but the real problem was that the engine kill switch didn't work so it was running flat out with no fluids. Lunched the engine - cost £8k for a new one plus all the other bits like a new swing arm etc. Should have put it in the skip in truth as I sold it almost as soon as I got it back.

Retired from biking altogether now but Anglesey is a great circuit as there are a number of layouts including the Welsh "Corkscrew" :)
 

Dukes Fit

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Location
Aberdeenshire
If you don't mind me asking what was it. After a demo I'm trying to sort a deal on this View attachment 508382Although I love my Ducs, you seem to pay a premium for a lesser bike IMHO
Ducati sports bikes are never going to offer the same levels of road handling and manners as the Japanese makes, they undoubtedly are a track focussed bike, all the things that make them uncomfortable, harsh, nervous bikes to ride normally, suddenly all make sense and turn it in to a fantastic track weapon.
The Japanese bikes are far more competent at mixing the two.

What you're paying for in a Ducati is low volume production with high end components from the likes of Termignoni, Marchessini, Marelli, Brembo, Ohlins and a certain amount of hand building.

And of course ... the creative genius that was Massimo Tamburini
 
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