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<blockquote data-quote="Courier" data-source="post: 7640469" data-attributes="member: 868"><p>We have had 3 cam belt breakages recently.</p><p>Two were on long term hire Northgate Peugeot partners with refrigeration conversions where Northgate service dept had failed to register that the standard change interval of 120,000 miles was superseded with a change at 60,000 miles because of the engine driven refrigeration compressor. They snapped at 78,000 and 83,000 miles respectively. Neither of the vans were back in service with us for over 4 weeks so we had to hire in and insure at an extra cost of over £700 per week.</p><p>One of the vans was repaired and the other got a complete new engine (they were both under manufactures warranty.)</p><p>The hire contract period is now completed and we have bought the van which had the new engine at 78,000 and then at 3 years old and at 136,000 had a new cam belt fitted by Northgate.</p><p>However within 30 days of buying this van it once again experienced a cam belt failure so our immediate thought was that maybe the cam belt hadn’t actually been changed.</p><p>Technically this new engine should be under warranty but Peugeot Assist first decided that it should be recovered to a Peugeot main dealer, then said no, recover it to a garage of your choice so we had it recovered to our trusted local “back street motor engineer”.</p><p>From breakdown to garage was under 10 miles but took over 7 hours due to buck passing within the recovery system (NFU - RAC - Peugeot).</p><p>Yes the cam belt had failed, but it appeared new so let’s get it pulled apart, see photographs - there can be no denying the chain of events which has led to this - firstly the stud holding the plastic idler had snapped and the idler was friction welded to the timing cover, this caused the new belt to snap.</p><p>The bigger bolt is the crankshaft bolt which has to be removed to replace the cambelt and this can clearly be seen to have been over tightened to the point of stretching the bolt and damaging the thread.</p><p>Conclusion: Over zealous tightening of both the idler stud and crankshaft bolt without observing correct torque settings by an incompetent “Northgate Mechanic “</p><p>The van was out of service for just 7 days, and we have paid our guys for the repair ( camshaft, followers, new studs and bolts etc).</p><p>Northgate have yet to comment but I will have no doubts about using the small claims court to recover the £1200 for this repair.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Courier, post: 7640469, member: 868"] We have had 3 cam belt breakages recently. Two were on long term hire Northgate Peugeot partners with refrigeration conversions where Northgate service dept had failed to register that the standard change interval of 120,000 miles was superseded with a change at 60,000 miles because of the engine driven refrigeration compressor. They snapped at 78,000 and 83,000 miles respectively. Neither of the vans were back in service with us for over 4 weeks so we had to hire in and insure at an extra cost of over £700 per week. One of the vans was repaired and the other got a complete new engine (they were both under manufactures warranty.) The hire contract period is now completed and we have bought the van which had the new engine at 78,000 and then at 3 years old and at 136,000 had a new cam belt fitted by Northgate. However within 30 days of buying this van it once again experienced a cam belt failure so our immediate thought was that maybe the cam belt hadn’t actually been changed. Technically this new engine should be under warranty but Peugeot Assist first decided that it should be recovered to a Peugeot main dealer, then said no, recover it to a garage of your choice so we had it recovered to our trusted local “back street motor engineer”. From breakdown to garage was under 10 miles but took over 7 hours due to buck passing within the recovery system (NFU - RAC - Peugeot). Yes the cam belt had failed, but it appeared new so let’s get it pulled apart, see photographs - there can be no denying the chain of events which has led to this - firstly the stud holding the plastic idler had snapped and the idler was friction welded to the timing cover, this caused the new belt to snap. The bigger bolt is the crankshaft bolt which has to be removed to replace the cambelt and this can clearly be seen to have been over tightened to the point of stretching the bolt and damaging the thread. Conclusion: Over zealous tightening of both the idler stud and crankshaft bolt without observing correct torque settings by an incompetent “Northgate Mechanic “ The van was out of service for just 7 days, and we have paid our guys for the repair ( camshaft, followers, new studs and bolts etc). Northgate have yet to comment but I will have no doubts about using the small claims court to recover the £1200 for this repair. [/QUOTE]
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