Moving an underground line

[toquark]

If a cable is under your land, you are entitled to a way leave or to get the fudging thing removed, surely?

Well as I understand it, if it’s SP energy network’s cable then yes I should be entitled to a wayleave. I had no idea it was there until I dug it up. If it is private, it’ll be between the neighbour and I, which would be far the easiest and probably cheapest situation as I’m pretty sure we could work away and get it done without issue. Either way though, a wayleave probably does need established.

 

[toquark]

Assuming the meter is in his house, whats at the other end? a transformer on a pole?

Yes, the transformer and pole are on my ground which supplies my place, I expected that was all it was there for until I went digging and found the other cable. Before you ask my meter is quite separate from the cable in question!!!

 

[toquark]

Yes should be, but if its very old, with all the changes maybe of power companies over the years then it looks like it might not be on a map.

This kind of stuff is the reason i never like to be beholden to others or for others to me

Yes I reckon it’s been in the ground a long time. Not on any site plans, old or new and not mentioned in any titles etc.

Its 3 ft down and hasn’t really bothered me until now, but if it ever were to become a hassle, I could always get careless with a digger again...

 

[Lincsman]

Yes, the transformer and pole are on my ground which supplies my place, I expected that was all it was there for until I went digging and found the other cable. Before you ask my meter is quite separate from the cable in question!!!

If there is no meter/ fuse on the pole before the said cable goes under ground then its still part of the Grid, I would expect his meter to be at his house, unless its an illegal un-metered supply!

 

[goodevans]

If there is no meter/ fuse on the pole before the said cable goes under ground then its still part of the Grid, I would expect his meter to be at his house, unless its an illegal un-metered supply!

It possibaly may be just that,local electrician and shop owner many years ago ran his shop off the street light mounted on his property in our village

 

[KennyO]

Maybe try the networks wayleaves officer. The SSE guy that I had dealings with in the past was pretty helpful.

 

[ollie989898]

If there is no meter/ fuse on the pole before the said cable goes under ground then its still part of the Grid, I would expect his meter to be at his house, unless its an illegal un-metered supply!

Apparently there are hundreds if not thousands of homes that are connected to the utilities but not actually registered. The big providers don't go around hunting them out because the cost of doing so basically outweighs the revenue gained from flogging the supplies. I've known people who haven't had a water or gas bill etc for years and it is law that they cannot be billed for any previously consumed amounts. Interesting but totally legal.

 

[goodevans]

Apparently there are hundreds if not thousands of homes that are connected to the utilities but not actually registered. The big providers don't go around hunting them out because the cost of doing so basically outweighs the revenue gained from flogging the supplies. I've known people who haven't had a water or gas bill etc for years and it is law that they cannot be billed for any previously consumed amounts. Interesting but totally legal.

Or the apparent scam of thinking you were being connected to the gas mains for a backhander for that very reason only to find a47 kg bottle buried in the ground when the workmen had moved on

 

[Lazy Sod]

I've just reread the the OP's posts. He has not said that he even knows if the neighbour has a meter for the supply to his shed. If there isn't a meter, then the neighbour must be getting his electicity for nothing.

Has the OP asked the neighbour if there is a meter for ths supply?

 

[puppet]

I would ask the neighbour before landing him in it.

 

[toquark]

I've just reread the the OP's posts. He has not said that he even knows if the neighbour has a meter for the supply to his shed. If there isn't a meter, then the neighbour must be getting his electicity for nothing.

Has the OP asked the neighbour if there is a meter for ths supply?

I don’t know if he has a meter, however he’s not the type to pull a fast one so I’d be surprised if it’s illegally connected. Apart from anything else, he’d have had to dig a trench through the middle of my yard and field to reach the transformer. So the previous owner here would’ve had to have been in on the scam

 

[Lazy Sod]

If you go and ask him if he has a meter and if he has, who he pays for the power, then you'll know whose cable it is. You won't get anywhere until you do.

 

[goodevans]

If you go and ask him if he has a meter and if he has, who he pays for the power, then you'll know whose cable it is. You won't get anywhere until you do.

That's not entirely true ,he may be paying any third party for electricity ,ie co op or such like but the cable would still belong to the area network,western power in my area ,who only control infrastructure .The meter is the key though and where it is on the line

 

[TheTallGuy]

If you go and ask him if he has a meter and if he has, who he pays for the power, then you'll know whose cable it is. You won't get anywhere until you do.

Doesn't matter who he pays - the cable will belong to the Distribution Network Operator (DNO)

 

[Wombat]

Whatever happens the cable needs a wayleave anyway going forward,

 

[Lincsman]

That's not entirely true ,he may be paying any third party for electricity ,ie co op or such like but the cable would still belong to the area network,western power in my area ,who only control infrastructure .The meter is the key though and where it is on the line

I think we can safely say there is no meter on the pole so the cable is part of the grid.

 

[Lazy Sod]

So therefore, the DNO cannot deny that it's their cable. If the OP accidentally dug up the cable and it was dragged onto the surface with live bare wires, so it was in a dangerous state, somebody would have to take responsibility for making it safe.

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

There’s an armoured cable leading from a transformer in my field to neighbour’s shed about 300m away.

Trouble is, I want to put a shed up and I suspect the shed site will interfere with the line.

Lots of people would kill to have a power supply right where they want to build a shed

 

[Lincsman]

Lots of people would kill to have a power supply right where they want to build a shed

Especially as it wont need a meter!

 

[cvx175]

I wondered about that but I expect his take on it will be "your shed, your problem" Which in all fairness would be the line I'd take in his position. He's a decent chap and a good neighbour so I don't want to upset or annoy him unduly if avoidable. There may be a case to draw up a simple wayleave though to protect both parties in the future?

He may say your shed your problem. However if you cut through it when digging it becomes his electric his problem