Moving lambs after worming

[twizzel]

I am going to dose my lambs tomorrow after fec showed high egg count (1450epg), along with a high cocci count. Vet advised keep lambs in for 24hrs after the worm drench, then go in with vecoxan, then can turn back out.

I have been rotating them between 2 fields for the last couple of months- when the lambs are in 1 field, the 2 rams are in the other, then they swap when the grass gets ahead of the rams. The cattle have also grazed both fields tight when grass got ahead of the sheep. Are both fields therefore classed as dirty? Can I bring lambs out of field 1, treat, house over night and then turn out to field 2? They last grazed field 2 3 weeks ago. The lambs have a couple of cull ewes running with them too which won’t be treated. Thanks

 

[Downton_shep]

Both fields are classed as dirty I’m afraid

 

[neilo]

I am going to dose my lambs tomorrow after fec showed high egg count (1450epg), along with a high cocci count. Vet advised keep lambs in for 24hrs after the worm drench, then go in with vecoxan, then can turn back out.

I have been rotating them between 2 fields for the last couple of months- when the lambs are in 1 field, the 2 rams are in the other, then they swap when the grass gets ahead of the rams. The cattle have also grazed both fields tight when grass got ahead of the sheep. Are both fields therefore classed as dirty? Can I bring lambs out of field 1, treat, house over night and then turn out to field 2? They last grazed field 2 3 weeks ago. The lambs have a couple of cull ewes running with them too which won’t be treated. Thanks

Yes, both fields will certainly be ‘dirty’. I don’t really see the advantage n housing them overnight tbh, as any worm eggs they shed overnight will be exactly the same as the 90% that are already on your pasture.
Strange advice from your vet imo.

 

[Downton_shep]

Yes, both fields will certainly be ‘dirty’. I don’t really see the advantage n housing them overnight tbh, as any worm eggs they shed overnight will be exactly the same as the 90% that are already on your pasture.
Strange advice from your vet imo.

I guess the vet was thinking they would be moved to “clean” ground after.

 

[twizzel]

Yes, both fields will certainly be ‘dirty’. I don’t really see the advantage n housing them overnight tbh, as any worm eggs they shed overnight will be exactly the same as the 90% that are already on your pasture.
Strange advice from your vet imo.

It was something to do with nematodirus burden on the field I think. They’ve already had a white drench but think there are strongyle (and maybe other types of) worms so treating with a clear wormer. Plus vet was hesitant about treating with vecoxan at same time as wormer, though said if push come to shove they would probably be ok.
That’s as I thought then, both fields are dirty, so I can put them in the other field when I turn them back out

 

[neilo]

I guess the vet was thinking they would be moved to “clean” ground after.

Could be I guess, but SCOPS want us putting them back on dirty ground for a few days before we dare move them onto clean grazing these days…

 

[neilo]

It was something to do with nematodirus burden on the field I think. They’ve already had a white drench but think there are strongyle (and maybe other types of) worms so treating with a clear wormer. Plus vet was hesitant about treating with vecoxan at same time as wormer, though said if push come to shove they would probably be ok.
That’s as I thought then, both fields are dirty, so I can put them in the other field when I turn them back out

I wouldn’t worry about any problems from treating with Vecoxan (if needed, are hey pathogenic cocci, or just a ‘high count’?) and a wormer at the same time. I suspect there will be many hundreds of thousands of lambs that get a white wormer for nemo at the same time as a dose of Vecoxan.

 

[twizzel]

I’ve done a white wormer and vecoxan before. Not done a clear one and vecoxan though. Worm count was 1450epg and cocci 14500opg. Lambs are showing clinical signs of cocci (grey watery scour) and we know the field they are in has a high cocci count, hence treating for both.

 

[neilo]

I’ve done a white wormer and vecoxan before. Not done a clear one and vecoxan though. Worm count was 1450epg and cocci 14500opg. Lambs are showing clinical signs of cocci (grey watery scour) and we know the field they are in has a high cocci count, hence treating for both.

If they’re showing clinical signs, as well as a high FEC, then I’d certainly be on it too.
Personally, I’d have no concerns about Vecoxan alongside any worm drench tbh (sequentially, not mixed in the same bottle obviously).