Mower bed repair

[Sa86]

So after years of service my front mower has for no reason at all lost drive to the outside disc after removing the bearing turns out it's one of the smaller cogs in-between that's given up question is is it worth stripping the bed down replacing broken or damaged cogs cleaning and putting back together or would I be better pricing up a new bed have people had success repairing the bed mower is a pottinger alpha motion

 

[Tubbylew]

So after years of service my front mower has for no reason at all lost drive to the outside disc after removing the bearing turns out it's one of the smaller cogs in-between that's given up question is is it worth stripping the bed down replacing broken or damaged cogs cleaning and putting back together or would I be better pricing up a new bed have people had success repairing the bed mower is a pottinger alpha motion

I suspect it depends how much time you have, certainly it was never economical (on the john deere mowers) to pay someone to strip and repair, the lely mowers were a bit different, very little experience with pottinger though, if it were me I'd ask for a price for both options.

 

[Dave W]

Is that a serious question?
A days work and a few hundred quid in parts vs (I'm guessing) £2-3k for a new bed?

 

[Mur Huwcun]

Pottinger IIRC are like Krone with a closed one piece bed? Skids off, hubs off, retaining bolts off and small gears will slide out? Bed on bench is easier but they can be done in place on Krone. Much easier than say a Kuhn which needs the bed off, stripped right down and split open

 

[horace]

Intrigued as to how you are going to 'split open' the one piece bed Kuhn/JD use?
I've done intermediate gears on a JD whilst still in the frame.

 

[Andrew]

Stripped and rebuilt a Pottinger rear bed, very easy job. They even provide a simple guide, anyone could do it.

 

[Sa86]

Is that a serious question?
A days work and a few hundred quid in parts vs (I'm guessing) £2-3k for a new bed?

Well yes it was a serious question I Know of several people that have had a bed repaired only to have them go again shortly after and since we've finished this years grass times not a problem over winter to fix it but when we get cutting again next year I can't afford possibility of it going with 1000ac to get through

 

[JCB_JCR]

Difficult bit would be making sure you've got all the small broken bits of gear out...

 

[Mur Huwcun]

Intrigued as to how you are going to 'split open' the one piece bed Kuhn/JD use?
I've done intermediate gears on a JD whilst still in the frame.

Shows when was the last time I did a Kuhn then You had to split them then!!

 

[Grassman]

Well yes it was a serious question I Know of several people that have had a bed repaired only to have them go again shortly after and since we've finished this years grass times not a problem over winter to fix it but when we get cutting again next year I can't afford possibility of it going with 1000ac to get through

If you have a thousand acres to do would it be an option to sell and buy a newer mower?

 

[Will 1594]

Well yes it was a serious question I Know of several people that have had a bed repaired only to have them go again shortly after and since we've finished this years grass times not a problem over winter to fix it but when we get cutting again next year I can't afford possibility of it going with 1000ac to get through

@Pennine Ploughing think he needs to speak to you ,when you and edd would have 6 or 7 taarup 307 in bits rebuilding them over winter
to the op
how much is a new bed now ,compaired to a full strip down and rebuild

 

[Sa86]

If you have a thousand acres to do would it be an option to sell and buy a newer mower?

Well that was my original thought but being a tight arse I was exploring all avenues

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

@Pennine Ploughing think he needs to speak to you ,when you and edd would have 6 or 7 taarup 307 in bits rebuilding them over winter
to the op
how much is a new bed now ,compaired to a full strip down and rebuild

Aye yes yes aye,

Taarup 307, don't remind me, the nightmares faded 10 years after the went,

Pottinger, had no experience with them,
But should be simple enough if your good with the spanners,
I bow the the knowledge of the previous posters on here on this one, but there is some posts near the mark on how I think it will be done,

Just I tip, if its your first one, and it's winter, get it out, and on to the bench or something similar, plenty of light, and clean area to work.
No reason why it won't be ok if its done right,

 

[james ds]

Did it run low in oil, if it did it’s not worth repairing as every bearing in it will be cooked.

 

[Will 1594]

Intrigued as to how you are going to 'split open' the one piece bed Kuhn/JD use?
I've done intermediate gears on a JD whilst still in the frame.

When did they go to one piece bed ,
a while since i opened one of old ones ,

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

When did they go to one piece bed ,
a while since i opened one of old ones ,

Over 20 years ago

 

[Dave W]

Repairing modern mower beds is easy enough. Can be time consuming.
If you're doing 1000 acres with it I'd advise stripping it all down and putting new bearings in the whole thing. It won't add up to a huge amount and you'll know it's been done.

 

[Lakes Nash]

Well yes it was a serious question I Know of several people that have had a bed repaired only to have them go again shortly after and since we've finished this years grass times not a problem over winter to fix it but when we get cutting again next year I can't afford possibility of it going with 1000ac to get through

Difficult part is in winter you repair, no grass to try, then as you say 1000 acre to cut, 1. How many acres has it cut, 2. How old is it, 3. How reliable has it been, 4. have you a backup if it is not a successful repair , 5. give it a good going over to be sure then you like everybody has to take the chance you’ve bossed it!

 

[essexpete]

Crikey 1000 acres to mow (assume that means multiple cuts) my guess would be to invest in a new or very nearly new machine. Repair the old one run it to check OK and put at the back of the barn as a spare.

 

[Wellytrack]

Aye yes yes aye,

Taarup 307, don't remind me, the nightmares faded 10 years after the went,

Pottinger, had no experience with them,
But should be simple enough if your good with the spanners,
I bow the the knowledge of the previous posters on here on this one, but there is some posts near the mark on how I think it will be done,

Just I tip, if its your first one, and it's winter, get it out, and on to the bench or something similar, plenty of light, and clean area to work.
No reason why it won't be ok if its done right,

Was doing up to 400 acres a year up until two years ago with a 307. Still an excellent cutting mower..