Muckspreading insanity

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
There was me thinking spreading cattle fym over late autumn/winter was a safe bet? Not much good on silo ground in the spring and cattle are still on the aftermath now so end of season is out too!

Anybody in any doubt should be leaving the NFU now and farmers taking sewage sludge should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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Steevo

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Location
Gloucestershire
Does the ban also apply to spreading at night??? We're also now only allowed to spread 2700gals slurry per acre in February when it had been 3500gals.

Are you thinking that instead of hare coarsing, those late night scoundrels might take up muck spreading as their new sport..?!

Farmer wakes up next morning, sees wheelmarks everywhere…..nothing new there he thinks! Goes out to take a closer look before reporting it to the police and sees behind each set of wheelmarks there’s a layer of muck right up the field! 😂
 

Goweresque

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Location
North Wilts
Are you thinking that instead of hare coarsing, those late night scoundrels might take up muck spreading as their new sport..?!

Farmer wakes up next morning, sees wheelmarks everywhere…..nothing new there he thinks! Goes out to take a closer look before reporting it to the police and sees behind each set of wheelmarks there’s a layer of muck right up the field! 😂

Reminds me of the Hitchcock film Strangers on a Train, where two unrelated people who both have a person they wish to murder agree to swap murders, in order to reduce the chance of either being caught.

Perhaps it will become a rural unwritten law - if you see a heap of manure in your neighbour's field you are obliged to go and spread it, no questions asked........
 
I heard on the radio yesterday a water company saying they would be compliant with current law in 9 years time rather the 25 years they had projected. Why do water boards with a history of 20,000 sewage pours every year get a massive period of grace when farmers get a few months prior months notice and no following period of grace?
I think you will find that it's because every voter needs to take a sh!t fairly often 😉
 
I think most of us realise this farming to dates on a calendar is a load of bollox, the weather changes considerably from year to year, the rule book should be torn up and common sense used instead.

Unfortunately some just haven’t got any, I had been to fetch a part the other day and passed a field of maize stubble that had been very heavily plastered in slurry and as if that wasn’t bad enough, it’s a field which will almost certainly flood over winter.
That said , standard NVZ rules would/should put a stop to that, it wasn’t in an NVZ
 

DaveGrohl

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Location
Cumbria
Depends on the nutrients content and the crop need, it needs to be science based or the EA aren't going to listen.

It really should have been up to the EA to prove an issue based upon scientific evidence in the first place!
Science? How naive are you? The process is pressure groups cause a fuss without any science at all. Govt agency issues directives because of a clueless wish to be seen to be stamping down on bad people cos their entire purpose is to keep coming up with ever new sh1t. Legitimate businesses become despondent because new rules are clearly idiotic. Huge sums of money are spent trying to find solutions to problems that don't even exist. New problems are created as a consequence. Same govt agency still doesn't realise it's all their doing and brings some more rules in that are even more stupid than the original stupid rule. At no stage does anyone ask the people who actually have some knowledge that has been passed down for generations. Rinse and repeat.
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Location
Cumbria
The answer is obvious. Everyone turn their muck heap every month for 6 months - it is then compost and OK to spread when you like.

All the nitrogen has gone off into the atmospere and the P and K are all in the dirty water tank which you can spread when you like.

I just need another 2 acres of concrete.
Don't forget the needless fossil fuels we'll burn doing that in the process.
 

Bullring

Member
Location
Cornwall
I thought the ban only applied to manures with a high nitrogen content? That was the case for the closed period in this NVZ. It didn’t apply to FYM. So can we carry on with spreading low N manures such as FYM in the autumn?
I thought the ban only applied to crops as they said they couldn’t utilise the nutrients, I thought it was ok to spread on grassland.
 

DaveGrohl

Member
Location
Cumbria
EA : 12,000 staff "working" hard to:

Stop farmers farming.
Not maintain waterways.
Stop farmers maintaining waterways.
Letting towns flood.
The obvious answer is for a govt to simply abolish them. They've passed the point of no return as far as I'm concerned. All semblance of rational thought has disappeared entirely. Govts are only too happy to abolish some govt depts and replace with new versions, why are they sleeping here?
 

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