What right has the growers of maize, pretty sure this time of year, end of october, for the green energy business , to plastering the public roads with large amounts of mud and crop? so much round here on certain roads that it is a serious safety matter? what sort of image does this give to the general public? now if it was a large building site im sure the contractors would have to clean the lorries leaving the site, or at the very least clear the mess up at there expense? So why is it that agriculture, the people growing this crop, to make money after all, are any different? Does it really have to take some innocent member of the public, a child maybe on a bike to have a accident caused by this mud and crop debri on wetroads for any one to take notice?
MUD MUD ON THE ROAD?
- Thread starter bluebell
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- Scottish Highlands
They're not. If you have specific concerns, speak to the landowner and if they don't sort it pronto then report them to the police and the council.
Spencer
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- North West
See above. Don't whine on social media.
The public pay the subsidies to AD plants to grow the crop.
Bad for the public,bad for locals,bad for farmers and bad for the soil.
Its green though.
Bad for the public,bad for locals,bad for farmers and bad for the soil.
Its green though.
Pretty sure the law says youv got too keep the road as clean as practically possible and a full clean up at the end of every shift… so a tractor brush following trailers up the road i would call as good as practically possible, and a few swipes over the end of the day….
Ali_Maxxum
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- Chepstow, Wales
We had a road brush following us around a few weeks ago when it was sticky, as well as the signs out, it is what it is, we work to the best of our abilities and any issues are dealt with. Unfortunately some give the rest of us a bad name, get this in all walks of life.
No point getting grumpy about it, that takes more energy than doing something about it.
No point getting grumpy about it, that takes more energy than doing something about it.
Western promise
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People who are under sowing maize with grass mixtures are seeing less soil on the roads as a result of this practice. This practice will also feed & help soil structure. Below is the Zocon Greenseeder take a look on there Facebook & Instagram for more pictures & information.
Tarw Coch
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- Bottom of Wats Dyke
It needs cleaning up, simples, we allways have a tractor and brush on hand to clean up as the job goes on as do most others and as ours is only a piddly little bit, try to pick some decent weather to do it on to minimise any mess, but that’s for a few dairy cows.
Not sure if I’m right but the op seems to be aiming their comments at the AD boys, not sure why that should make a difference, mud on road is mud on road.
As I’m the one that usually gets to sit on the brush here I can tell you it’s not the nicest of jobs, not because you don’t get to go charging up the road at 50k, collar up, shades on, beacon on (we only lug it a few hundred yards up the road anyway) but because of the hassle and abuse that you get from some motorists who despite signs, and a tractor with lights and flashing lights on show no consideration for what you are doing, they are downright dangerous drivers, I certainly wouldn’t want to earn my living working on the side of the roads the way some drive. although to be fair they’re not all like that, some certainly do seem to appreciate the effort.
Not sure if I’m right but the op seems to be aiming their comments at the AD boys, not sure why that should make a difference, mud on road is mud on road.
As I’m the one that usually gets to sit on the brush here I can tell you it’s not the nicest of jobs, not because you don’t get to go charging up the road at 50k, collar up, shades on, beacon on (we only lug it a few hundred yards up the road anyway) but because of the hassle and abuse that you get from some motorists who despite signs, and a tractor with lights and flashing lights on show no consideration for what you are doing, they are downright dangerous drivers, I certainly wouldn’t want to earn my living working on the side of the roads the way some drive. although to be fair they’re not all like that, some certainly do seem to appreciate the effort.
Castle Farm
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The Bill will do SFA about it. Reported a farmer who deliberately discharged his muck spreader on the road in front of our property and they said ring the council.
Thinking about in now they may have been worried about having to go down on one knee.
Thinking about in now they may have been worried about having to go down on one knee.
The difference is the sheer scale of the operations, its like comparing the impact of a corner shop to a superstore. Unless you live in an area plagued by ad operators you would struggle to understand. The other aspect is that the ad plants are in arable areas. Areas where livestock farming disappeared before silage was thought of. As a result the inhabitants had never seen a silage trailer until now.
im not whine as, spencer says? i farm, ive put mud, manure out on the public highway, i said public highway? but because i live work local we try to clear , keep it tidy, same as when we trim the road side hedge that has a public footpath along it( we get dog walkers, etc throw their poo, beer bottles, cans etc into our grazing fields) but none the less we sweep it down of hedge cuttings. My post is to say that farmers cant moan about the general public on the one hand, then make a mess on the public highway, block the drains up etc, and bear no responsiblility for this? A slight excuse well we are bringing in the harvest the weathers against us, to feed you? but this is not the case?
- Location
- North West
This is how the local contractor gets round the mud problem.
- Location
- south norfolk
Do see a few gangs in Norfolk running those lorry sweeper things to clear up after the tractors and trailers when on the maize
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DeeGee
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- North East Wales
These are okay if you do it every load and sweep it up straightaway: but once there is a compacted layer of mud they tend to just sweep over it as they aren’t designed to actually scrape mud off the road.
spin cycle
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- north norfolk
several years ago there was a brilliant letter in our local paper from disgruntled householder fed up with mud from beet harvesting......went something like..
dear sir,
Perhaps the 'big estate co' would be kind enough to tell me what they intend to plant on the road outside my house once they've finished filling it with soil
not really relevant but made me laugh
dear sir,
Perhaps the 'big estate co' would be kind enough to tell me what they intend to plant on the road outside my house once they've finished filling it with soil
not really relevant but made me laugh
In winter 2012 when I was working for a large dairy farm. (Farm now grows for an AD plant).
Maize cart was a mud bath, what we did was have tractors that hauled on the road to the pit and the drop a trailer, in the field entrance (shoe on a sleeper).Then had tractors that stayed in the field filling off the forager. Return to field entrance drop the trailer pick up an empty one and repeat.
Meant that all the road brush had to clean each time was the mud the trailers bought out which was minimal. When the time came to move along the road to the next field or block of land. We just spent a few minutes digging the worst out the forager and field tractor tyres.
It worked well, it didn't really slow anything down to badly as being so wet, the pace was slower anyway.
Maize cart was a mud bath, what we did was have tractors that hauled on the road to the pit and the drop a trailer, in the field entrance (shoe on a sleeper).Then had tractors that stayed in the field filling off the forager. Return to field entrance drop the trailer pick up an empty one and repeat.
Meant that all the road brush had to clean each time was the mud the trailers bought out which was minimal. When the time came to move along the road to the next field or block of land. We just spent a few minutes digging the worst out the forager and field tractor tyres.
It worked well, it didn't really slow anything down to badly as being so wet, the pace was slower anyway.
76masseyman
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- Location
- Lincolncestershire
That’s how it should be done.
These AD runs should be lorry work. It's far to common to hear of a silage trailer falling over.
Either like this set up. Or have the heap/ pit close to where the forager is, and haul it to the plant as needed with lorries.
Ali_Maxxum
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- Chepstow, Wales
Would be interesting to see a price comparison.