Muellers mischief

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Authored by James Howard Kunstler via Kunstler.com,

After two years of gaslighting the public while it blew smoke up America’s ass, the Jacobin news media enjoyed its final feeding frenzy with the release of the 400-page Mueller report. They expected 1000 pounds of raw filet mignon, but it turned out to be tofu fried in olestra. The ensuing fugue of hyperventilating hysteria was also duly expected and William Barr stoically endured their hebephrenic peevings at the release ceremony — a press conference which itself offended the media.

The threats and raving continued all the livelong day and far into the peeper-filled night with CNN’s Chris Cuomo blustering “It’s time to rumble,” and the lugubrious hack David Gergen muttering soulfully, “This was not fake news,” and The Times’ Maggie Haberman fuming that the White House had played the “Nazi anthem” Edelweiss — very fake news, it turned out, since the tune was written for Rodgers’ and Hammerstein’s 1959 Broadway show, The Sound of Music (and sung by the anti-Nazi hero Baron von Trapp). Meanwhile Rachel Maddow had the balls to confab in prime time with disgraced former FBI mandarin Andy McCabe, officially identified as a liar by his own colleagues at the agency. What a circus of perfidious freakery!

Understand that the Mueller Report itself was the mendacious conclusion to a deceitful investigation, the purpose of which was to conceal the criminal conduct of US government officials meddling in the 2016 election, in collusion with the Hillary Clinton campaign, to derail Mr. Trump’s campaign, and then disable him when he managed to win the election. Mr. Mueller was theoretically trying to save the FBI’s reputation, but he may have only succeeded in injuring it more gravely.

The whole wicked business began as a (failed) entrapment scheme using shadowy US Intel “assests” Stefan Halper and Joseph Mifsud to con small fish Papadopoulos and Carter Page into incriminating themselves (they declined to be conned) and moved on to ploys like the much-touted Trump Tower meeting to ensnare Trump Junior and then to several efforts (also failed) to flip Paul Manafort, and Michael Cohen — the final product of which was an epic failure to find one instance of real chargeable criminal collusion between anyone connected to Mr. Trump and Russia.

By the way, the Mueller Report failed to mention that the two Russians present in that August 2016 Trump Tower meeting, lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya and lobbyist Rinat Akhmetshin, were on the payroll of Hillary Clinton’s oppo research contractor Fusion GPS (UK), and met with that company’s principal, Glenn Simpson, both before and after the meeting — just one example among many of the Mueller Team’s shifty tactics, but a move that speaks volumes about Mr. Mueller’s actual intent, which was to keep his prosecutorial circus going as long as possible to interfere with Mr. Trump carrying out his own duties.

The Special Prosecutor’s main bit of mischief, of course, was his refusal to reach a conclusion on the obstruction of justice charge. What the media refuses to accept and make clear is that a prosecutor’s failure to reach a conclusion is exactly the same thing as an inability to make a case, and it was a breach of Mr. Mueller’s duty to dishonestly present that failure as anything but that in his report — and possibly an act of criminal prosecutorial misconduct.

Like any tantrum, the media’s frenzy will run out of steam (and credibility) and now they will be whipped like dogs for betraying their public trust.

There is a counter-narrative to the “Resistance” narrative, and it is a true crime story. That suppressed story is finally going to roll out in the implacable workings of actual (not fake) justice and it is going to crush a lot of people who concocted this epic political hoax, including some members of the press who knowingly and dishonestly abetted it. (including the BBC)
Many criminal referrals have already been made on the likes of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr, and a big net has been cast to pull in the figures who have been hiding in the thickets lo these two-and-a-half-years of smoke and gaslight: Loretta Lynch, Sally Yates, William Brennan, James Clapper, Nellie Ohr, Samantha Power, Bill Priestap, Jim Rybicki, James Baker, Mike Kortan, John Carlin, Mary McCord, Josh Campbell and more. Some of these are going to jail and some have already flipped. The fetchings should reach the Obama White House. Mr. Mueller himself, even in his majestic granitic silence, will be liable for failing to inform his boss, the Attorney General, that the predicate document for his witch hunt was known to be a fraud back in 2016, and was used anyway to spy on a presidential candidate.

Let congress put on a carnival of its own now. It will be greeted like a TV commercial for a hemorrhoid remedy while the real national psychodrama plays out in grand juries and courtrooms, demonstrating what a grievous injury was done to this republic by its own vested authorities.
 

Muck Spreader

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There is no dispute that the Kremlin used social media to influence the 2016 election in favour of Trump, people have already been convicted for it. The question is, did Trump actively collude in it or was just a useful idiot. And subsequently did he try and prevent or interfere with the investigation process.
 
There is no dispute that the Kremlin used social media to influence the 2016 election in favour of Trump, people have already been convicted for it. The question is, did Trump actively collude in it or was just a useful idiot. And subsequently did he try and prevent or interfere with the investigation process.


The investigation found that Russia Today and other agents funded a mix of adverts on social media for and against both parties.

I think the total amount of money involved was a few million $.

Hilary Clinton spent $1.5 Billion and Trump about $1 Billion.

The question will become one of treason against the POTUS using a dodgy dossier paid for by Democrats .. which is a federal offence with an unlimited jail term.

Given the extreme nature of the intervention by Obama and Hilary .. I'm surprised Trump has so far been so mild in his response.
 

Muck Spreader

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Was there any Russian involvement in the Brexit referendum..............if the aim was to cause chaos it had the desired effect.
Has anyone bothered to scope out any corruption that may have taken place or does that kind of thing not happen in Britain..?

The elections/referendums with evidenced Russian involvement are Ukraine 2014, UK 2016, US 2016, France 2017, and Germany 2017, Additionally there are suspicions in the Italian 2018 election. Probably more if someone looked.:eek:
 

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I think this piece sums the situation very accurately
quoted from The Times Of London today
By Gerard Baker
april 24 2019, 5:00pm, the times
Team Trump’s main crime is incompetence

gerard baker

A thorough reading of Mueller’s report reveals plenty to embarrass the administration but nothing that could destroy it

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If you thought the results of Robert Mueller’s investigation into Donald Trump’s campaign and Russian meddling in the 2016 US election were going to settle conclusively the issue of the president’s guilt or innocence then you haven’t been following American politics for the past few decades.

It was inevitable that there would be something for everyone when the verdict came down. “No collusion! No obstruction!” was the gist of the president’s response, citing the central finding that no crime was committed by his campaign and the attorney-general’s decision not to lodge any allegations of presidential attempts to interfere with the course of justice after the election.

Elizabeth Warren, a Democratic senator and candidate for the party’s presidential nomination in 2020, was the first in her party to take the opposite view: “The severity of this misconduct demands . . . the House should initiate impeachment proceedings against the president of the United States,” she tweeted.

So which is it? Exoneration or impeachment? I’ve spent the past week reading the 440-page report and checking its findings with lawyers and others. Here I offer the eight key points:

1. No Collusion!

Almost . . . Mr Mueller was careful in his language. He noted that “collusion” has no real legal meaning in this context and prefers to consider whether there was a “conspiracy” or active “co-ordination”. Here, he found there was no crime. Still, the report doesn’t paint a flattering picture. It notes the Trump team were more than happy to benefit from illegal Russian acts, such as the hacking of the Democratic Party’s emails. But Mr Mueller is thorough — there was no conspiracy.

2. No Obstruction of Justice!

This isn’t quite true either. Did Mr Trump use the presidency to impede the investigation into the Russia allegations? Mr Mueller is noncommittal. He does cite ten examples of how Mr Trump’s actions may be construed as attempts to obstruct justice, such as telling the White House counsel to fire Mr Mueller and then to lie about it (the lawyer declined to do so).

Two things prevent him alleging a crime. First, on almost every occasion, Mr Trump’s attempts to obstruct were thwarted by staff who chose to ignore him (see item 5). Second, Mr Mueller took a narrow view of his remit. Under Justice Department guidelines, a sitting president cannot be indicted so in the special counsel’s view it would have been wrong to allege criminal actions because there could be no trial and no chance for the president to defend himself. Instead, Mr Mueller left open the legal remedy to Congress, which alone has the power to charge, convict and remove a president.

3. No Impeachment!

There’s enough material in Mr Mueller’s obstruction findings at least for a congressional inquiry. But there’s enough uncertainty about the president’s actions and intent, about his actual powers as chief executive, to suggest this won’t get far. In any case, there is zero chance that the Senate would vote to remove him.

4. No Witch-hunt!

From the start of the investigation Mr Trump and his allies in Congress and the media sought to discredit it by saying it was started by politically motivated opponents in the deep state who used the infamous dossier by a former British intelligence agent that had its origins in the Clinton campaign. Mr Mueller makes clear there was ample reason to pursue the probe. It wasn’t the Steele dossier that got it started but reports from a foreign government that the Trump campaign had been pursuing dirt on Mrs Clinton offered by the Russians. The many interactions between Trump people and Russians leave no doubt this was a necessary exercise.

5. Team Trump is more incompetent than malevolent.

The report details in embarrassing fashion just how inept the president’s campaign and advisers were. There’s a continuous thread of inexperienced fumbling incompetence, especially in his efforts to block the investigation which mostly failed because staff wouldn’t or couldn’t follow his orders.

The best example may be from Michael Cohen, Mr Trump’s lawyer and fixer. Asked by a colleague to arrange a meeting with Dmitry Klokov, a Russian business figure close to Vladimir Putin, he googled the man and tried repeatedly to get in touch with a former Olympic weightlifter of the same name.

6. Julian Assange is a despicable piece of humanity.

Not news this finding, but more detail to support it. To deflect attention from the fact that he was co-operating with the Kremlin in the publication of Democratic emails, Mr Assange promoted a conspiracy theory that the leak had come from inside the Democratic Party, from a young man who was randomly subsequently murdered on a Washington street. In the process he impugned the man’s reputation and prolonged the agony of his parents over the investigation of his death.

7. The Trump people lie a lot.

OK, you knew that one too. But the scale of the mendacity laid bare is still breathtaking. One blatant example comes from Sarah Sanders, the press secretary. During the controversy over Mr Trump’s firing of FBI director James Comey, she told the press the White House had been contacted by many FBI agents to say they had lost confidence in their boss. Asked under oath about this by Mr Mueller’s lawyers, she said her statement was “not founded on anything”.

8. The system worked.

For all the ritual denunciations on both sides, claims of treason, of a deep-state cabal, the investigation did two things. It exposed questionable behaviour by a deeply flawed man and his team. But by declining to endorse the clamour for his removal and conviction, it confers much-needed legitimacy on a controversial presidency.
 

Exfarmer

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Was there any Russian involvement in the Brexit referendum..............if the aim was to cause chaos it had the desired effect.
Has anyone bothered to scope out any corruption that may have taken place or does that kind of thing not happen in Britain..?

There is little doubt that Russia played as big a part as it could without being too obvious.
There is certainly question marks over some of the money supplied to the Leaving sides.
MR Banks has not been able to supply full details and especially the question arises about the history of his diamond mines.
Then there is the continual drip feed from the likes of RT feeding malicious rumours into the social media websites. They are very aware of the old adage, a lie has run a thousand miles before the truth has got its trainers on :)
However to say they swung it is difficult to claim. All elections have been to a certain extent been traduced by outside influences.
Russia has though, a history of playing a very long game, and the break up of the EU is high on its Bucket list.
 

rob1

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There is little doubt that Russia played as big a part as it could without being too obvious.
There is certainly question marks over some of the money supplied to the Leaving sides.
MR Banks has not been able to supply full details and especially the question arises about the history of his diamond mines.
Then there is the continual drip feed from the likes of RT feeding malicious rumours into the social media websites. They are very aware of the old adage, a lie has run a thousand miles before the truth has got its trainers on :)
However to say they swung it is difficult to claim. All elections have been to a certain extent been traduced by outside influences.
Russia has though, a history of playing a very long game, and the break up of the EU is high on its Bucket list.
Whereas george soros hasnt spent a penny on trying to reverse the result
 

Exfarmer

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So youre happy that he wants to undermine a democratic vote by the uk,?
Absolutely, if done openly to promote another democratic vote.
We have votes on many issues was commonly every 4 years.
I have always voted conservative and remwmber several very sad elections , when policies which were working well for the country were upset the next day by those idiots on the other side getting in to power. A few years later the Conservatives would get in again and start to clean up the mess.
Sadly by the time they had done the job they were out on their ear again.
Same should be the case for Brexit, let the public decide on this most important vote for this country, this century
 

rob1

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Absolutely, if done openly to promote another democratic vote.
We have votes on many issues was commonly every 4 years.
I have always voted conservative and remwmber several very sad elections , when policies which were working well for the country were upset the next day by those idiots on the other side getting in to power. A few years later the Conservatives would get in again and start to clean up the mess.
Sadly by the time they had done the job they were out on their ear again.
Same should be the case for Brexit, let the public decide on this most important vote for this country, this century
we did nearly three years ago, not been implemented yet.
 

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