Must be some money in straw

[ollie989898]

Someone needs to educate me in balesizes i fear.

What is wrong with good old hesstons and the quadrant...

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Someone needs to educate me in balesizes i fear.

What is wrong with good old hesstons and the quadrant...

Straw In the West is all about weight . Haulage cost ÷ by tons on the wagon, to get weight on you need a modern HD baler , example. Last week we had 8 string HD bales on 24 tons . Same wagon 4 string bales out of an old baler 12. 5 tons . If I charge the full price for the light load the farmer would die of shock

 

[fieldfarmer]

How many ba

Straw In the West is all about weight . Haulage cost ÷ by tons on the wagon, to get weight on you need a modern HD baler , example. Last week we had 8 string HD bales on 24 tons . Same wagon 4 string bales out of an old baler 12. 5 tons . If I charge the full price for the light load the farmer would die of shock

How many bales for 12.5 tons, sounds more like a operator /density problem than a lack of HD baler problem, presuming the load was of a similar height and width.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

How many ba

How many bales for 12.5 tons, sounds more like a operator /density problem than a lack of HD baler problem, presuming the load was of a similar height and width.

Normal weight for those 4 strings on that lorry would be 16 to 17 ton . Sp yes something wrong somewhere. But still 4 strings are a desater for hauling any distance . IF price matters that is

 

[czechmate]

Someone needs to educate me in balesizes i fear.

What is wrong with good old hesstons and the quadrant...

Good old Hestons 1200 x 1200.
Quadrant. 1200 x 700
Most popular bale here 1200 x 900. (4 a bit higher than 5x700 so more weight)

Know naff all about 4 string bales as, as FT says they are a waste of time

 

[Andrew]

Someone needs to educate me in balesizes i fear.

What is wrong with good old hesstons and the quadrant...

Good old Hesstons only have 6 strings, the same as a 4x3 or a quad. That means they have less string per metre cubed of straw therefore cannot be as dense before the string snapped.

In theory quads are the densest, but powerstations won’t take them so nearly everyonenis moving to 4x3s. You can load them in different ways to maximise the loadspace and therefore weight on the trucks.

Edit: as for the OP, I’ve seen lots of big flashy combines and grain trailers about these last few weeks, there must be an awful lot of money in wheat this year........

 

[czechmate]

Good old Hesstons only have 6 strings, the same as a 4x3 or a quad. That means they have less string per metre cubed of straw therefore cannot be as dense before the string snapped.

In theory quads are the densest, but powerstations won’t take them so nearly everyonenis moving to 4x3s. You can load them in different ways to maximise the loadspace and therefore weight on the trucks.

Edit: as for the OP, I’ve seen lots of big flashy combines and grain trailers about these last few weeks, there must be an awful lot of money in wheat this year........

It is a quite bizarre OP

Not quite as bizarre as the thick as pig sh!t thread though

 

[An Gof]

Think Izal/Bronco vs Andrex

Yes, I think I get the picture

 

[d williams]

And how many days must you wait for that one to come along?

All depends on area I would think

 

[d williams]

that's why we buy our own balers cos all the contractors want is big fields and big swaths ,not us smaller farmers

Not bothered what i bale behind the price per bale just varies

 

[7610 super q]

Good old Hesstons only have 6 strings, the same as a 4x3 or a quad. That means they have less string per metre cubed of straw therefore cannot be as dense before the string snapped.

In theory quads are the densest, but powerstations won’t take them so nearly everyonenis moving to 4x3s. You can load them in different ways to maximise the loadspace and therefore weight on the trucks.

Edit: as for the OP, I’ve seen lots of big flashy combines and grain trailers about these last few weeks, there must be an awful lot of money in wheat this year........

Due to last years short lived bonanza, I would think.

 

[Boohoo]

Baling straw is the most profitable job I do. I like my bales 36×18×14 with 2 strings, I make at least 500 of them an hour with a baler that cost £500 and a tractor that cost £3500

 

[ILovebaling]

Main part of my contracting is baling and I've not gone bankrupt yet so personally don't find it that much of a mugs game, be it grass or straw. And you can only bale the type of bale your customers like I find so I'm still making the 3x3xwhatever mini hesstons for all the hate they get on here. And rounds are still the main type in grass.

 

[Skimmer]

Main part of my contracting is baling and I've not gone bankrupt yet so personally don't find it that much of a mugs game, be it grass or straw. And you can only bale the type of bale your customers like I find so I'm still making the 3x3xwhatever mini hesstons for all the hate they get on here. And rounds are still the main type in grass.

Being on mini hesstons for 30 years hay straw & haylage for our system great and for customers too, when straw becomes in short supply its surprising how popular they all of a sudden, shed full of good quality this year but to inconvenient for traders on here.

 

[D14]

Our merchant prefers big hestons as he takes 38 of them at a time with weights anything from 19t - 21t.

 

[D14]

Our merchant prefers big hestons as he takes 38 of them at a time with weights anything from 19t - 21t.

 

[czechmate]

Our merchant prefers big hestons as he takes 38 of them at a time with weights anything from 19t - 21t.

I had a full Heston on trial one year. My merchant made me tip all the bales over as the width is an inch less than the height and they were too high on his wagon the right way up.
In my life now as a user, I would hate to have 1200 x 1200 bales. Especially hay.

 

[czechmate]

A couple of manufacturers made 1200 x 800 which I thought would be a bloody good size but they have never been popular. I can see that height on the lorries is a problem with 800 deep bales

 

[Andrew]

I had a full Heston on trial one year. My merchant made me tip all the bales over as the width is an inch less than the height and they were too high on his wagon the right way up.
In my life now as a user, I would hate to have 1200 x 1200 bales. Especially hay.

You should turn Hesstons over anyway if you’re stacking them more than 3 or 4 high, otherwise the flakes collapse and the stack falls sideways. H+S are quite hot on this.

A couple of manufacturers made 1200 x 800 which I thought would be a bloody good size but they have never been popular. I can see that height on the lorries is a problem with 800 deep bales

800 high is not a good size for this country, it doesn’t fit any of the transport dimensions.

Some manufacturers made a 1m bale IIRC, no good for here but 3 high fitted perfectly on the continent with 4m hight restriction.

 

[Flat 10]

Baling straw is the most profitable job I do. I like my bales 36×18×14 with 2 strings, I make at least 500 of them an hour with a baler that cost £500 and a tractor that cost £3500

500 an hour?! With a £500 baler? they must be fresh air!