My Bridgeway Biostimulant trial

[Hilly]

How much too bale it, stack in corner and load wagon ?

 

[Clive]

How much too bale it, stack in corner and load wagon ?

Straw has to return me £60/ac in the swath before I even start listening, too expensive basically I know but its value to soil health is much higher than most accept or understand, that stuff is feeding my livestock (worms and biology) and without them I cant grow good crops for long

 

[SilliamWhale]

Straw has to return me £60/ac in the swath before I even start listening, too expensive basically I know but its value to soil health is much higher than most accept or understand, that stuff is feeding my livestock (worms and biology) and without them I cant grow good crops for long

Just get it out of a can instead Clive

 

[Clive]

Just get it out of a can instead Clive

or maybe try both ?


more you feed your cows the fatter they get apparently ?

I'm a sceptic like you .............. but there is only one way to be certain !

 

[SilliamWhale]

or maybe try both ?


more you feed your cows the fatter they get apparently ?

Not necessarily!

 

[Clive]

Not necessarily!

well hopefully at harvest I will find out and be able to base future management decisions on that data

 

[Hilly]

Can only buy it per ton, you might only have .5 ton an acre , its tons your chopping so tons is only fair way.

 

[Daniel]

If it’s not your land, will the landowner mind if you sell the straw?

 

[jonnyjon]

well hopefully at harvest I will find out and be able to base future management decisions on that data

Very interested to c how this goes, trialing various snake oils/ foliar feeds this year too. My long term farming plans don't include poisons

 

[SilliamWhale]

Very interested to c how this goes, trialing various snake oils/ foliar feeds this year too. My long term farming plans don't include poisons

Toxicity is the dose. Poison to whom or what?

 

[Clive]

If it’s not your land, will the landowner mind if you sell the straw?

I'm contract farming for them, we do what ever we think is best ...................................and farming more than one year at a time is our attitude and theirs, neither them or us wants to run a mining operation

"if" price is high enough we sell, if its not we don't, simple ........... its rare the price is high enough however to reflect the OM's true value

 

[AndrewM]

how much a hectare does it cost? any info on the label as to what it actually contains? amino acids doesn't really mean anything. have trialed a lot of products like theses in my old job, never found one that worked, or produced a return.

 

[Chalky]

We trialled it heavily last year-2l/ha per timing. Not a thing-so financial loss as an input. Completely open minded-I wanted a positive result for my £60/ha.

Hailed as 'stress busters'-how they failed to mitigate absolutely none of the stress last years conditions bore on the crops makes me believe that they'can' work-but unlike agchems they do not 'have' to work.

Sticking to quantifiable inputs of nutrition and phosphites to help productivity.

Would like to hear that you see something-but if that is the case, I will wait for repeatable results trialling from manufacturers. I believe I may be waiting a good while...

 

[Gong Farmer]

@Clive, haven't read all the links but can you confirm it was used alone, not tank mixed with fungicides?

 

[snarling bee]

Straw has to return me £60/ac in the swath before I even start listening, too expensive basically I know but its value to soil health is much higher than most accept or understand, that stuff is feeding my livestock (worms and biology) and without them I cant grow good crops for long

If its been through a livestock building first then it is even better.

 

[Clive]

@Clive, haven't read all the links but can you confirm it was used alone, not tank mixed with fungicides?

yes - i'm using it alone in 100l/ha of water

apparently can tank mix but for practical reasons in a trial its is easier for us to do a separate pass rather than mess about with different mixes fr different fields etc.

we haven't actually applied any fungicides yet, crops are very clean

 

[Clive]

If its been through a livestock building first then it is even better.

I agree and will always swap straw for muck

 

[Brisel]

We trialled it heavily last year-2l/ha per timing. Not a thing-so financial loss as an input. Completely open minded-I wanted a positive result for my £60/ha.

Hailed as 'stress busters'-how they failed to mitigate absolutely none of the stress last years conditions bore on the crops makes me believe that they'can' work-but unlike agchems they do not 'have' to work.

Sticking to quantifiable inputs of nutrition and phosphites to help productivity.

Would like to hear that you see something-but if that is the case, I will wait for repeatable results trialling from manufacturers. I believe I may be waiting a good while...

Last year's main deficiency was H2O! Try YaraVita Magphos K. I don't believe in this but my agronomist insisted I try some. The "control" plot (a miss!) died on me shortly afterwards. Unfortunately it was in a brew of fungicides too & yellow rust was rife in that block of Diego so not a proper trial. If I see similar symptoms this year I'll try something a bit more scientific.

 

[Clive]

Last year's main deficiency was H2O! Try YaraVita Magphos K. I don't believe in this but my agronomist insisted I try some. The "control" plot (a miss!) died on me shortly afterwards. Unfortunately it was in a brew of fungicides too & yellow rust was rife in that block of Diego so not a proper trial. If I see similar symptoms this year I'll try something a bit more scientific.

I think Yara Krista did us a lot of good here last year, notable visible difference in a few missed trial tramlines, didn't weight it though

Maybe a waste of money in a wet year however

 

[Brisel]

I think Yara Krista did us a lot of good here last year, notable visible difference in a few missed trial tramlines, didn't weight it though

Maybe a waste of money in a wet year however

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