My Bridgeway Biostimulant trial
- Thread starter Clive
- Start date
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
Sorry its changed its name, it's now called TFP Pro-Foliar https://www.tricetuk.com/tfp-pro-foliar
Yes, Amino Acids, Minerals, Nutrition, Muck, Magic and Fairy Dust.
- Location
- S E Glos
Those figures are very close to those in a trial we have done, small yield increases but barely enough to pay for the product (and in no way statistically significant).
Can't wait to see Clive's results.
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
Statistically significant being a repeatable 5% movement in yield?
MNBVCXZ
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- Location
- Central Southern UK
Yes.
- Location
- S E Glos
No, not that simple. Depends on replication and a lot of complicated maths. With that range in the untreated, likely to need more than 5% to be significant.
As you say, probably needs 20 years of replication to be confident!
As you say, probably needs 20 years of replication to be confident!
SilliamWhale
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Yes - have cut the fields now but been too busy to collate the data etc
Will try this week when all the wheat is out the way and things calm down a little
John Slejpner
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- Location
- Brick clay near Bedford
On the subject of amino acid stimulants, i somehow found myself reading ADMs' terms and conditions at midnight the other day.
They specifically prohibit the use of Amino A and other similar hydrolysed protein products on crops grown for human consumption.
I am guessing that as Amino A is animal protein derived, ADM are concerned about the risk, however small, of prion protein contamination (CJD vector)
Bridgeway, being plant derived, should be OK, but it might be as well to check......maybe its something else ADM are worried about.
They specifically prohibit the use of Amino A and other similar hydrolysed protein products on crops grown for human consumption.
I am guessing that as Amino A is animal protein derived, ADM are concerned about the risk, however small, of prion protein contamination (CJD vector)
Bridgeway, being plant derived, should be OK, but it might be as well to check......maybe its something else ADM are worried about.
John Slejpner
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- Location
- Brick clay near Bedford
Fibrophos vs animal derived amino acids. The latter are recommended / pushed at all growth stages but especially ahead of stress / intense growth. It is the ear emergance and later applictions in a dry scenario that are really going to make the buyer nervous...
To be fair, if i was a grain buyer, i wouldn't consider the risk reward ratio worth it either.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
How about Digested sewage sludge. All those meat eaters that have the temerity to defecate in the sewer and expect us to spread it on the land and grow food.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Clive is very quiet on his results.
I can only conclude that the results aren't what he wants to publish, or he's still too busy (he has been on plenty of other threads recently though).
I can only conclude that the results aren't what he wants to publish, or he's still too busy (he has been on plenty of other threads recently though).
YELROM
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- Location
- North Yorkshire
Maybe trying to buy up all the stocks of biostimulant before he releases his figures and the price rockets
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
My bet is that it covered its costs +£10/ha.
Just enough to make you try it again next year.
Just enough to make you try it again next year.
SilliamWhale
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Perhaps they don't
If it was a fungicide and only did that you boys would be slagging it off
If it was a fungicide and only did that you boys would be slagging it off
Hindsight
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
But biostimulants are my newest best friend.
SilliamWhale
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Unregulated too!
- Location
- Bedfordshire
I think @Clive is realising that without the use of a triton drill the product is useless, he is probably trying to get them to build a 36m one for his ctf system and so he can pull it with a 240hp tractor.
- Location
- S E Glos
I've never met Clive but from his persona on here I don't believe he'd be hiding anything. Either he's too busy or the people he was working with are holding on to the data.
Oh, and speaking as one who is working flat out to publish trial results, I can confirm it's a really slow process.
Oh, and speaking as one who is working flat out to publish trial results, I can confirm it's a really slow process.