JNP
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We have steel box gutters working dead level on a 120' x 100' building with a 100mm outlet at each corner with no overflowing even in the heaviest downpours. They will carry so much more water than a plastic gutteryeah we have got fall on all the sheds we done but the building we extended up was dead level, it was put up too accurate 20+ years ago so we didnt have alot of choice. the shed that the building goes to has 20mm fall per bay and that works well. looking back we couldve had the extension steels different lengths i suppose but we kept it simple!
surely at each end where the outlet is it must be slighty raised due to the fixing of the outlet in the bottom of the gutter? this is our case which is raised slightly which results in water standing in the gutter due to the plastic insert which treads into the bottom and is approx 4mm proud.We have steel box gutters working dead level on a 120' x 100' building with a 100mm outlet at each corner with no overflowing even in the heaviest downpours. They will carry so much more water than a plastic gutter
We bolt them to brackets welded to top of stanchions and not to wall plate/eaves beam
the posts down the middle are 254x146x46ub, with 2 panels 4ft high against them, and they havnt bent yet. the 1st year we only had silage 1 side.If shuttering would go down in size and use columns eg 12x12 instead of ub
Everyone is overspeccing steel now especially on silage clamps & grain stores
I have seen steel in clamps bent like a banana The use of panels puts more strain on the posts
I can't afford for clamps to bend
One bad job gets around faster than 100 good ones !!!
Yes your correct the plastic insert is slightly proud but mastic on each joint when squezzed out is also proud. There is always a little water in bottom of gutter but I've never had any overflowssurely at each end where the outlet is it must be slighty raised due to the fixing of the outlet in the bottom of the gutter? this is our case which is raised slightly which results in water standing in the gutter due to the plastic insert which treads into the bottom and is approx 4mm proud.
there must be wind flowing down the gutters to make them run 120ft and dead level
Quite truethe posts down the middle are 254x146x46ub, with 2 panels 4ft high against them, and they havnt bent yet. the 1st year we only had silage 1 side.
i agree a bad job sticks like wet mud, it wouldnt have been the fabricators fault if my posts fell over parting the pit if i didnt do a good enough job of concreting them in.
the biggest strongest steels wouldve gone over if i only put a barrow full of concrete around each one, what im getting at is the person errecting it needs to be doing a decent job and not solely relying on big oversized steels which are just as likely to fall over if not done properly
why do you put them dead level?Yes your correct the plastic insert is slightly proud but mastic on each joint when squezzed out is also proud. There is always a little water in bottom of gutter but I've never had any overflows
All our buildings are put in dead level
yeah you could do that depending on the profile, on our type it would also mean cutting the lip off the 1 side that fits on top of the pulin,its all doable , a gutter with no lips would be the answer and making brackets for each leg, we'll see how we get onThere is nothing to stop you welding the gutter cleats on 10mm lower on each leg than the last down the shed length, to create a fall for the Steadman type gutters.
Only proviso would be that you need to still be able to get top yorkshire boarding nails run into bottom of eaves beam timber
Good ideaThere is nothing to stop you welding the gutter cleats on 10mm lower on each leg than the last down the shed length, to create a fall for the Steadman type gutters.
Only proviso would be that you need to still be able to get top yorkshire boarding nails run into bottom of eaves beam timber
+1I've never heard of anyone putting fall on a shed before reading this
Not on purpose anyway
+2 Always thought a shed had to go up perfectly levelI've never heard of anyone putting fall on a shed before reading this
Not on purpose anyway
Put a lean to onto a fairly old building once+2 Always thought a shed had to go up perfectly level
I've never heard of anyone putting fall on a shed before reading this
Not on purpose anyway
Same here thought it fudged the roof sheets up. But I don't know why+2 Always thought a shed had to go up perfectly level